Cache Creek Trip Report / New LTR Trunked System!

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Went to Cache Creek casino <http://www.cachecreek.com/> to check out comedian Ron White <http://www.tatersalad.com/>. Since I'm not a gambler, I brought a couple of scanners (Pro-92 and BC-246T) with me to provide some entertainment before and after the show. I brought the 246 for it's CloseCall feature to pick up any unlicensed frequencies. I also brought the Pro-92 because of it's ability to 'track' LTR systems without having to program frequencies in LCN order.

Before I left, I went to the web to get any licensed frequencies. The list is provided below. I entered them into the BC-246T with Tone Alert On and Tone Search On. Listening in while I was in the parking lot, I heard a lot of 'beeps' (from Tone Alert), but no tones were decoded. This was the first clue that the radios were probably LTR and not carrier squelch.

Programming the Pro-92 with the licenses frequencies started showing me the LTR TGIDs. Since the Pro-92 would 'give up' the LCN number, it was easy to start making a list of LCN numbers. Unlike the Pro-97, the Pro-92 requires voice traffic to be able to decode home channel number. Note that this number is simply part of the LCN TGID.

I started to get hungry and decided it was time to go in. I had heard that Las Vegas casinos aren't exactly friendly towards folks bringing in scanners, I thought I had better be discreet. I put a stubby antenna on the 246. I programmed it in CloseCall auto store. I enabled Tone Search and Repeater Find. I hid the radio in my vest pocket and proceeded to get some food before the show. After dinner, I took several laps around the casino floor to help increase the chances of frequency finds.

When I got back to the truck (before the show), I programmed the Pro-92 with the new Close Call hits. It was rewarding to see these new (unlicensed) frequencies were part of the Casino's LTR system. I started compiling a list of TGIDs. I went to the show (great show!) and brought back the BC-246T to snag more frequencies. I didn't find any.

The show was packed, and I decided to hang out a little bit more and log some more TGIDs. At around 2am, I decided it was time to head back to my hotel (not Cache Creek! ;)). Since I decided I probably wouldn't be back for a while, I wanted to come back the next 'morning' to get more data.

The next morning, I came back to log more TGIDs. I was still missing a couple of LCNs. I could monitor a familiar 'LTR data burst', but noone was talking on those channels, so I couldn't get an LCN. These frequenceis are in the 'Missing LCN'list. I have also included a CloseCall hit that didn't appear to be part of the LTR system, nor did I hear any other traffic on it. Maybe I missed something, or maybe it's noise.

As a verification, I programmed the LTR system into the BC-246T and verified that it would track the system just like the Pro-92 (which doesn't require LCN numbers). The BC-246T wouls track given the configuration below, so I'm pretty confident in the LCN numbers I found.

Hopefully someone will take this information as a starting point and get the LCNs for the missing frequencies.

Enjoy...


Licenses:
<http://www.radioreference.com/modules.php?name=RR&action=fcc&cs=WPUD589>
461.8625 / 466.8625 (IG)
<http://www.radioreference.com/modules.php?name=RR&action=fcc&cs=WPTQ372>
464.775 / 469.775 (IG)
<http://www.radioreference.com/modules.php?name=RR&action=fcc&cs=WPSG534>
462.775 (IG)

<http://www.radioreference.com/modules.php?name=RR&action=fcc&cs=WPVU237>
461.7875 / 466.7875 (YG)
463.6125 / 468.6125 (YG)


LCN Freq Source
03 461.2500 CloseCall
06 461.7875 WPVU237 (YG)
09 461.8625 WPUD583 (IG)
12 462.7500 CloseCall
15 463.6125 WPVU237 (YG)
17 463.8000 CloseCall


Missing LTR
?? 462.7750 WPSG534 (IG)
?? 464.7750 WPTQ372 (IG)


Misc
n/a 461.7750 CloseCall

TGIDs
(Note all TGIDs are prefixed with 0-)
3-101 Security Ch# 1
3-102 Security Ch# 2
3-103 Security Ch# 3

12-136 Casino Floor Ops
12-137 Casino Floor Ops/2

9-121 Casino Maint?
"Open machine for paper fail"
"Replace bulb in $5 machine?
9-133 "Supervisors have a radio?"

15-146 Hotel maintenance

17-157 Resort Custodial
17-161 Housekeeping / Concierge
17-162 Valet Parking / Bellman?
"Green Pontiac needs assistance"
"652 needs someone to pick up luggage"
17-166 Shuttle Bus
 

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Don't take the radio into the casino. You're asking for trouble. I am a radio tech for the neighboring county (the towers on the hills west of the casino). We cannot bring in our county owned when we eat lunch (the buffet is great).

Remember that the normal laws of the land don't apply on Indian land.

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45-70-405 said:
Don't take the radio into the casino. You're asking for trouble. I am a radio tech for the neighboring county (the towers on the hills west of the casino). We cannot bring in our county owned when we eat lunch (the buffet is great).

Remember that the normal laws of the land don't apply on Indian land.

Josh

Well, I dodged a bullet. :)

So can you help me verify the LCN numbers?
 

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Don't know the system, so I can't help with details. Just giving a little general advice. Same rules play out in Reno or Vegas, but all they can do is throw you out.

I have never played around with LTR truning. All I have done is figured out EDACS for Nevada.

Josh
 

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45-70-405 said:
Don't know the system, so I can't help with details. Just giving a little general advice. Same rules play out in Reno or Vegas, but all they can do is throw you out.

I have never played around with LTR truning. All I have done is figured out EDACS for Nevada.

Josh

Understood. I wasn't trying to argue. Part of this 'fear' is why I kept the radio in CloseCall Autostore while it was in the casino...
 
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