Calfire Talk Groups

[ProLaw1]

Has anyone else noticed that Calfire San Diego has not been using zone 11 TG,everything seems to be on zone 10 regardless of the incident and I’m hearing zone 10 traffic on both the south site as well as west site, I just wonder what they are doing if it’s permanent or just temporary

 

[SDBud]

Has anyone else noticed that Calfire San Diego has not been using zone 11 TG,everything seems to be on zone 10 regardless of the incident and I’m hearing zone 10 traffic on both the south site as well as west site, I just wonder what they are doing if it’s permanent or just temporary

Z10 and Z11 should both have the dispatches, but Z 11 is the north half of the County, Z 10 is South (usually), but there is no actual line you can see or point to for the difference.

 

[Anderegg]

Z10 and Z11 should both have the dispatches, but Z 11 is the north half of the County, Z 10 is South (usually), but there is no actual line you can see or point to for the difference.

I typically hear more 10 stuff NORTH and 11 stuff SOUTH aka EAST.

Paul

 

[FYRDC]

Has anyone else noticed that Calfire San Diego has not been using zone 11 TG,everything seems to be on zone 10 regardless of the incident and I’m hearing zone 10 traffic on both the south site as well as west site, I just wonder what they are doing if it’s permanent or just temporary

CALFIRE/County Fire use changed several months ago. See below.

Zone 10 primary use is for routine incident assignments (medical, service calls, misc. hazards, traffic collision (no extrication), etc.)
Zone 11 use- *Think anything a Battalion Chief would normally respond to. Structure Fires, traffic collisions w/ extrication, etc.

Assignments are:
10A/11A: Dispatch
10B/11B: Admin traffic to ECC
10C/10D: Batt 1/7
10E/10F: Batt 5/8
10G/H: Batt 2/3/4
10I/10J: Incident
10K: VHF back-up
10L/M/N: Incident
10P: Emergency

11C/D/E: Incident South
11/F/G/H: Incident South
11I/J/K: Incident North
11L/M/N: Incident North
11P: Emergency

There are also several more talkgroups in use for training, community risk, administration and law enforcement bureau use.

 

[B]

Great info, FYRDC, much appreciated. Can you please fill us in about all the changes? Thanks in advance!

Bill

 

[Anderegg]

Yes thank you, I have been trying to figure out what the heck they have been doing for the past year!

Paul

 

[mike619]

I have heard structure fire calls on the zone 10 talkgroups as well.

 

[FYRDC]

I have heard structure fire calls on the zone 10 talkgroups as well.

That use case would have been user-error…

 

[Anderegg]

Is 10K still the "these god damn VHF repeaters dont work!" backup wildland response talkgroup?

Paul

 

[inigo88]

That use case would have been user-error…

I notice they've been patching 10A and 11A so hearing the medical dispatches on 11A or the structure fires on 10A (because the scanner will only stop on one or the other) might be what's confusing people.

Thank you for the post. DB is partially updated. A couple more questions...

• I monitored 10A/11A for a bit and so far every medical dispatch was assigned "Respond on 10 Charlie." Were these really all calls in Battalion 1/7, or are they running 10C as a medical command similar to what Central Fire (formerly known as Heartland) does with 1C?
  
  
• Is there a public map of the CAL FIRE/County FPD battalion response areas? The only station map I've been able to find groups them by county board of supervisor district - not terribly helpful when responding to a fire.
  

  Fire Stations

  www.sandiegocounty.gov
  
  
• For the groups of 3 incident talkgroups in Zone 11 (for example 11C/11D/11E Incident South), do you know if they assign these similar to how SDFD used to do it, with the command channel (IC to ECC) being the first talkgroup and the second and third being a primary and secondary tac / fireground? How about with the 2 talkgroup pairs in zone 10?
  
  
• Any updates on what zone 12 will be used for? Here's what we have currently:
  
  

• Decimal	Hex	Mode	Alpha Tag	Description	Tag
  39	027	D	CFA 12A Travel	12A Travel	Fire-Talk
  2443	98b	D	CFA 12E	12E Fire Tac	Fire-Tac
  2444	98c	D	CFA 12F	12F Fire Tac	Fire-Tac
  2445	98d	D	CFA 12G	12G Fire Tac	Fire-Tac
  2446	98e	D	CFA 12H	12H Fire Tac	Fire-Tac
  2447	98f	D	CFA 12I	12I Fire Tac	Fire-Tac

 

[Anderegg]

Wait, 11A is new Medical calls dispatch? I have mine locked out because I thought it was just the patch of 10A like 4A is a patch of 3A.

Paul

 

[inigo88]

Wait, 11A is new Medical calls dispatch? I have mine locked out because I thought it was just the patch of 10A like 4A is a patch of 3A.

Other way around - Post #4 says 10A is routine incident dispatch (single engine type response maybe?) including medical aids, and 11A will be structure fires, vehicle accidents with victims trapped and other more serious incidents where a battalion chief would need to respond.

Monitored 11A some tonight and confirmed on unitrunker it was patched to 10A. Heard only medical calls. Every dispatch said “respond on 10C”, very similar to how Central fire runs 1C as a medical command and how SDFD runs 7E as a medical command. So I’m curious if that’s what’s going on, or if the channels really are split up by battalion per post #4.

 

[inigo88]

Update: I guess I didn’t give it enough time. Medical aid at Donnovan Prison got 10G/10H today.

I’d love to see that battalion map (or at least which stations the BCs are housed at) to make some sense of how the zone 10 talkgroups are assigned.

 

[FYRDC]

Is 10K still the "these god damn VHF repeaters dont work!" backup wildland response talkgroup?

Paul

Yes on 10K.
And ref 10A/11A, and 10B/11B, The Alpha’s are are strapped together as are both Bravo’s, at the system level.