California City PD radios get $387,000 upgrade

[zerg901]

Council approves much needed police radio upgrades | News | desertnews.com

Thats California City - in California - its a city - the City of California City in California

 

[kearthfan101]

considering they were on a DMR Capacity Plus system, yes it's needed. Bummer about encryption but not surprised.

 

[Tech21]

considering they were on a DMR Capacity Plus system, yes it's needed. Bummer about encryption but not surprised.

Encryption is necessary.

 

[Ravenkeeper]

Council approves much needed police radio upgrades | News | desertnews.com

Thats California City - in California - its a city - the City of California City in California

I lived in Cal City for 10 years, until a couple years ago. Cal City needed a radio upgrade the first time I lived out here.

 

[scannerboy02]

“Going to the P25 Digital would mean that we could communicate with outside agencies, and that we would all be able to scan each others frequencies, monitoring each others activities and calls for service.”

Only if you have multi-key radios (and the coordination that goes with that), or use one standard (and less secure) encryption key.


It amazes me that they keep using the premise of interoperability to get these P25 systems funded and then encrypt them. Encryption is not interoperable without a substantial amount of coordination. They will figure this out when the big one happens and they can't talk to each other because a department from two or three counties away doesn't have the encryption key. An encrypted P25 radio system is no better than the radio system they had on September 11th, 2001.

 

[Eng74]

Funny thing is Kern County Sheriff, Ridgecrest PD, Bakersfield PD and all the other cities are on UHF and nobody is P25. The only one would be Edwards AFB.

 

[1979lee]

Funny thing is Kern County Sheriff, Ridgecrest PD, Bakersfield PD and all the other cities are on UHF and nobody is P25. The only one would be Edwards AFB.

I thought kcso had p25 channels? i know bpd does.
i gotta get a digital scanner,any recomendations?

 

[Baker845]

Motorola sells these radio systems to departments that have no clue what interoperability is and they don't have anyone higher ups that know anything about 2 way radio's let alone radio systems. like Scannerboy02 said when the big one hits or they have major event, they will find out that half the counties around them, won't be able to talk to them because they didn't have current encryption key.

 

[LD723]

Wow reading that article was something else. Reading the article made it sound as if the people talking about the system have no idea what they are talking about especially when they use the term "hack" into the radio system lol. The article made it also seem as if they are immune from interference especially intentional if they move to P25 when they said that it is unlikely that some bad actor would do it but, intentional interference doesn't discriminate over digital or analog. Last bit of criticism lol but, they also made it seem as if going encrypted was the only way they could be in compliance with the new standards in California. O dear I wonder how they will fair out in big situations like others have already described. They could have a talkgroup dedicated for interop but they'd encrypt it too😂

 

[scannerboy02]

What really should be done is for an organization like APCO or similar to come up with a "standards" based solution that doesn't involve encrypting everything that can then be adopted by local agencies that way everyone has a gameplay to work with. When each agency is left to come up with a solution themselves it makes it rather difficult, especially for agencies that don't have people who know how this stuff works from a technician standpoint.