Yaesu: Can anybody help me wire my cable for FT-891

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Ok i have googled every word combination i can think of and asked fb with no results so I'm turning to you all here.
I want to try data with my yaesue 891 I built a 6pin din to duel 3.5mm cable only to discover my computer uses a single 4 pole 3.5mm plug. I already identified the wire to pin on the din cable and the wire to pole on the 3.5mm but I CANT find anything telling to tell me job to wire these two together.
CAN anyone help me?
Thanks I'm ready to say forget data if I cant figure this out 😠
 

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build the new cable the same way you built the first one
Its a totally different setup tho.
I was going to 2 poles on each cable to 4 poles on a single cable. I need to figure out the scheme of pole to pin.
 

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use an ohm meter to see what pin goes to what pin.
Ok, can you explain how to do this?
I know that pin A connects to the red wire, pin B goes to black wire, ect on my din cable
And that the red wire comes off pole A green wire comes off pole B ect on the audio end and all three bare wires are ground and hook together, I followed all them with my meter but what I'm trying to find out is pin a red wire goes to pole 1,2,or3 on my audio cable!
It was easy on the twin audio because I had a schematic to follow but nobody has considered us that have the 4 pole audio jack because its so rare.
 

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No. I cant find them anywhere.
Thats the problem, almost every other computer brand in the world uses a seperate 3.5mm jack for microphone input and headphone output so there are tons of videos, diagrams and adaptors out there for a twin wire input but nothing is out there for us poor idiots that bought this brand of computer!
I'm to the point I'm either going to say forget digital till my computer dies and I have to replace it or forget digital all together.
This is causing such a headache its not worth it lol
 

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Hey buddy.
You looking for something like this?
Once you trace your PC mic/speaker pins check for voltage on the mic connections because most probably there is a bias voltage on the mic pins to power an electret microphone that is so common for pc headphone/mic sets.
That said. Consider a Behringer UCA202 USB audio adapter. For 30 bucks your headaches will go away.
The Internet is filled with pc 3.5mm pinouts otherwise known as TRSS...tip ring sleeve sleeve.
The UCA202 is plug and play. And much better than built in sound as far as versatility.

 

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Hey buddy.
You looking for something like this?
Once you trace your PC mic/speaker pins check for voltage on the mic connections because most probably there is a bias voltage on the mic pins to power an electret microphone that is so common for pc headphone/mic sets.
That said. Consider a Behringer UCA202 USB audio adapter. For 30 bucks your headaches will go away.
The Internet is filled with pc 3.5mm pinouts otherwise known as TRSS...tip ring sleeve sleeve.
The UCA202 is plug and play. And much better than built in sound as far as versatility.

I'll look into this Thank you brother.
Just got done with a message from a ham on fb that thinks he knows the diagram I need also 🙌
 

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I programmed a marine band radio yesterday. A 5 pin header on a circuit board and 4 conductors from the programming cable. I confirmed that none of the, were carrying anything other than data by checking voltages. Maximum I found was 5v. I found which pin on both sides was ground. On the programming cable that was the sleeve of the 4 circuit 3.5mm plug I cut off. I found one pin of the header that was pin ground. Those two got joined and then I tried every combination until a read on the computer brought in data. I then tried writing it back and that worked too. So with four pins one end, and five the other, one single data connection was required. No contact at all on the others. It took start to finish, three hours of fiddling. It needs an accurate volt meter as a minimum and one capable of a sensible resistance readout too. I used a scope for my measurements. But a decent meter would have done really. However, I just reread it and saw you are just wanting to connect the audio. I misread it. To identify the transmitter input connection, the meter will show you which pin is the chassis ground. A simple test is to connect a dummy load and with an elastic band, stick it into transmit. Get a thin needle and hold it in your hand. Without touching anything with one hand, put the pin into each ‘hole’ and one will give output. That’s your input. Connect a cable to the computer’s input and open up an app that would record audio that has a meter. Touching the end of the cable in should give you a visual or audio hum when you tape it with your finger. this is your computer input. Get your radio producing noise. Interference of hiss is great. Wrap a bit of wire to the audio pin connection you know is the computer live input and prod that into each radio socket other than the one you identified as transmit audio in. When the hiss appears on the computer, that’s receive audio out from the radio. Make properly or bodge the required connection.
then I reread it again, and you said your computer has one socket for in and out on one 4 pin, so you just revise the above to detect the computer input which is likely to be not the tip but first or second ring, with the output on the tip and other ring. Ground always on the sleeve.
 

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Most commonly called a TRRS, or Tip Ring Ring Sleeve.
👍That helped! Found how my computers setup needs the plug wired at least.
Now if I can just find schematics telling me exactly what din pin to solder to what wire
 

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Look up TRRS versus TRS.


You'll also need to know the schematic for your computer. It will have one for sound out, and the other for sound in. Look up TRS for both. Then, you'll need to wire a patch cable to accept the two TRS pins and give you one TRRS pin.
 

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Yup the thread above yours helped me find what pole is what on my computer.
Now I just need to figure out red wire/pin A on the din plug attaches to Green wire Pole B on audio cable for a yaesu.
 

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Look up TRRS versus TRS.


You'll also need to know the schematic for your computer. It will have one for sound out, and the other for sound in. Look up TRS for both. Then, you'll need to wire a patch cable to accept the two TRS pins and give you one TRRS pin.
Ok I'm almost there. Looking in the advanced manual and numerous other rabbit holes i am down to one hook up issue. On the following photo is the (mic out) left audio or right audio?
 

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