XTS3000 Can i scan p25 P1 trunking systems?

[playzgod]

Hello, ive been in the works of programming my XTS3000 that i got about 2 months ago. Clearly ive been having some trouble programming it. Im trying to scan Miami-dade County Phase 1 P25 and i was wondering if my radio was capable and if i have the right flashcode.

Model NO. H09UCH9PW7BN
FLASH CD. 500008-000080-4

I am able to pick up p25 conventional but when i programmed the Miami-Dade control and Alternate control channels and i enter the HEX cd. I get a OUT OF RANGE on my radio. Not sure what the issue is. And yes i do have a system key.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Have a great day!

 

[mikewazowski]

More than likely, that radio is useless. Did you verify you have the correct firmware for P25 trunking? If you don’t know what that is, then chances are you don’t.

 

[playzgod]

More than likely, that radio is useless. Did you verify you have the correct firmware for P25 trunking? If you don’t know what that is, then chances are you don’t.

My current Firmware is 06.72.00

Not sure if you need my DSP Software but its N08.03.05

 

[18bravo]

Shouldn’t the radio shop be programming it?

 

[Motoballa]

My weekly entertainment.

I would 100% consult with the radio shop or system administrator prior to any self programming. By incorrectly programming the radio you're endangering the lives of legitimate users on a system.

Do it right if you're authorized to be on the system. Generating your own system key and trying it yourself will leave you with a paperweight radio.

 

[playzgod]

More than likely, that radio is useless. Did you verify you have the correct firmware for P25 trunking? If you don’t know what that is, then chances are you don’t.

Pretty sure this answers your and my question, im probably doing something wrong in the CPS

Q806 ASTRO IMBE Digital Operation
H14 Enhanced Digital ID Display
H38 SmartZone Systems Operation
Q361 ASTRO 25 9600 Baud Trunking

 

[clbsquared]

Usually, “Out Of Range” means the radio is trying to affiliate to the system but it’s too far away. If this is the case, and you aren’t an authorized subscriber on the system, consider yourself lucky that you aren’t able to affiliate.
Having a system key and being allowed on the system are two different things.
If you’re not authorized and you’re attempting to do the NAF method, you need to start over and do some more research.

 

[nhfdcadet]

And yes i do have a system key.

does this mean you are an authorized user on the system? if so, you should be able to consult the system administrator

 

[Project25_MASTR]

Pretty sure the firmware for P25 trunking is R7.x.x. Sounds like that radio may have been hit with FDBtool.

 

[Skypilot007]

Pretty sure this fellow is attempting non-affiliate scanning. Firmware version 6.72 was the last version to support phase I trunking on 800 MHz only. Version 7.x.x is a no go for 9600. Flashcode has the option in there. Keep on researching non-affiliate scanning, you'll figure it out eventually.

 

[chrismol1]

Non-affiliate scanning...In no way, shape or form is the the radio is to be parked on the actual talkgroups. No out of range messages, no signal meter, no flashing transmit lights. It is to remain on a conventional channel where only the scan list contains the Trk talkgroups. That's all it is. There seems to be a flaw in the interpretation as users reporting being parked on the talkgroup happens too often, on a 25 yr old radio...Hell it probably isn't receiving since after 25 years its so off freq it couldn't pickup the digital signal standing under the tower

 

[playzgod]

Pretty sure this fellow is attempting non-affiliate scanning. Firmware version 6.72 was the last version to support phase I trunking on 800 MHz only. Version 7.x.x is a no go for 9600. Flashcode has the option in there. Keep on researching non-affiliate scanning, you'll figure it out eventually.

Just got NAS to work, but now i’m getting partial audio, i hear some audios fully but they mostly cut off in the middle of it. not sure if this is part of a setting but any help figuring this partial audio issue would be greatly appreciated.

 

[rescue161]

You'll have to have the firmware changed to the correct version that works with 9600 baud P25 systems. That coupled with the correct band plan. The firmware that you are trying to use is not supported for use on 9600 baud P25 trunking.

 

[radioman2001]

Or use Talkgroup scan if it is not a large sysytem.

 

[playzgod]

You'll have to have the firmware changed to the correct version that works with 9600 baud P25 systems. That coupled with the correct band plan. The firmware that you are trying to use is not supported for use on 9600 baud P25 trunking.

would you happen to know which version is compatible

 

[rescue161]

The last/latest firmware that works with 800 MHz 9600 P25 trunking is Host version R06.72.00, used with DSP N/I08.03.05. The XTS3000 will not do 700 MHz, so if the system you want to monitor uses those freqs, then you are SOL.

To upgrade the host/DSP, along with CPS you need the firmware files, a refresh iButton, a service cable and a SmartRIB. A normal RIB will NOT work. A normal programming cable won't work either. Trying to jam in an srecord won't work either.

With all of that, the XTS3000 was released in 1996, so you'll be trying to get a 20+ year old radio to work on a system that it was not really intended to work on. Can it be done? Sure. But you'd be much better off spending your time on something newer that is much easier to upgrade that does not need a SmartRIB. If you have all of the above equipment, then by all means, go for it, but if not, you'll be fighting a losing battle as SmartRIBs, the firmware files and the iButtons are hard to find.

 

[CanesFan95]

C'mon, people. You know there's prolly no administrator or "radio shop". Quit bein' so anal.

 

[Motoballa]

C'mon, people. You know there's prolly no administrator or "radio shop". Quit bein' so anal.

Riiiiight I forgot when it comes to illegitimate users on public safety systems the only "radio shop" is their old XP laptop hand-me-down their grandpa gave them 10 years ago with a $20 Chinese programming cable they purchased from eBay and a YouTube video on how to program trunked systems from a guy using a cell phone to record how to do it. Not to mention a lot of guess work and playing with random settings in CPS. None of this of course could possibly ever pose an issue to legit users

He's gonna make another post "now the radio just doesn't turn on" and I'm gonna die laughing

 

[playzgod]

The last/latest firmware that works with 800 MHz 9600 P25 trunking is Host version R06.72.00, used with DSP N/I08.03.05. The XTS3000 will not do 700 MHz, so if the system you want to monitor uses those freqs, then you are SOL.

To upgrade the host/DSP, along with CPS you need the firmware files, a refresh iButton, a service cable and a SmartRIB. A normal RIB will NOT work. A normal programming cable won't work either. Trying to jam in an srecord won't work either.

With all of that, the XTS3000 was released in 1996, so you'll be trying to get a 20+ year old radio to work on a system that it was not really intended to work on. Can it be done? Sure. But you'd be much better off spending your time on something newer that is much easier to upgrade that does not need a SmartRIB. If you have all of the above equipment, then by all means, go for it, but if not, you'll be fighting a losing battle as SmartRIBs, the firmware files and the iButtons are hard to find.

I got those firmwares, if you scroll up you will see when i posted them, i got NAS to work but the transmission are not finishing and are cutting off in the middle of it. not sure if its a antenna issue, might be because the antenna is pretty banged up an almost exposed, everything on the radio is perfectly fine, i am getting fine transmissions in certain parts of the house.

 

[chrismol1]

Check to see its programmed to CQPSK and not C4FM under digital modulator type and put your ultra narrow intermediate freq filter to 5.76khz, these settings for simulcast trunked systems. Other than that the reference oscillator more than likely needs a tune up

And I'm looking at this is the system? Miami-Dade County Trunking System, Miami, Florida - Scanner Frequencies

What Im seeing is different RFSS but the same site ID 1. Make sure your coverage type is SmartZone and tick off the astro 25 Omnilink box. Try these settings described above Hopefully your not seeing the transmit light shine red. A NAS radio will try to send packets if its the wrong RFSS ID. By selecting SmartZone it disregard the system ID, which isn't an issue since its all 01, and checking Omnilink will disregard the need for correct RFSS ID if you have the control channels for the other sites programmed or it roams to other sites based off adjacent sites