Can my Moto xts be reprogramed to work with Moto cp200d

[panzer189]

At my new job we use Motorola cp200 and cp200d uhf radios. I still have my Motorola xts5000 from my prior job. The model xts i have according to the frequency chart / model number identification is -
Position 4 - S = Frequency Band470 to 520MHz
Position 8 - Primary Operation = Programmable
Position 9 - Primary System Type = Programmable

Can this radio be reprogramed to work with my fellow employees cp200d's

 

[Skypilot007]

What frequencies are the CP200 radios on? If the band splits for the radios are the same they should talk to each other if properly programmed, but in analog only. The XTS is P25 for digital and the CP200D is DMR. They are not compatible with each other on digital.

 

[panzer189]

What frequencies are the CP200 radios on? If the band splits for the radios are the same they should talk to each other if properly programmed, but in analog only. The XTS is P25 for digital and the CP200D is DMR. They are not compatible with each other on digital.

Since some of the guys are using the cp200 it has to be analog from what I understand. According to the model number on my cp200d this is the frequency 136-174 / 403-470Mhz uhf.

 

[Forts]

As mentioned, yes.... but only in analog. The fact that you are still using cp200s could be a good clue that this is indeed the case.

 

[panzer189]

Ok perfect, would you have any reference material on how to get my exact frequency from my cp200d so I can program it to the xts? Or can this only be done by company? I'll buy any software and attachments needed if you have any recommendations?

 

[mmckenna]

I'll point out a few other things:

Per FCC rules, the licensee is the only one who can add radios to their system.
§90.427 Precautions against unauthorized operation.
(a) Each transmitter shall be so installed and protected that it is not accessible to or capable of operation by persons other than those duly authorized by and under the control of the licensee. Provisions of this part authorizing certain unlicensed persons to operate stations, or authorizing unattended operation of stations in certain circumstances, shall not be construed to change or diminish in any respect the responsibility of station licensees to maintain control over the stations licensed to them (including all transmitter units thereof), or for the proper functioning and operation of those stations and transmitter units in accordance with the terms of the licenses of those stations

Translation = The person/company whose name is on the FCC license is responsible for all radios used under that license. That includes your radio if you are using it as part of your job. You, as an individual, do not have an FCC license for those frequencies.
There's nothing wrong with what you want to do, just make sure you get something in writing from your employer that says you are permitted to have your own radio operating on their radio system and under their license.
That also means that your radio needs to meet all the requirements that are set under their license. That means meeting emission requirements, power levels, usage locations, etc.

Not a big deal, lots of people do it. Just make sure you have the paperwork in hand, and that your radio is fully up to snuff.

 

[alcahuete]

Ok perfect, would you have any reference material on how to get my exact frequency from my cp200d so I can program it to the xts? Or can this only be done by company? I'll buy any software and attachments needed if you have any recommendations?

That model number you listed for the CP200d is 403-470 MHz. I don't believe there is any such thing as 470-520 MHz split on the XTS. There is 380-470 and 450-520. So as long as it is one of those two, you shouldn't have a problem.

The frequency is only one of the items you need. You also need to know if they are using a CTCSS/DCS tone, etc. It would be best to ask whomever handles your radios for your company. To get the frequency, you can also search the FCC database for your company.

 

[panzer189]

That model number you listed for the CP200d is 403-470 MHz. I don't believe there is any such thing as 470-520 MHz split on the XTS. There is 380-470 and 450-520. So as long as it is one of those two, you shouldn't have a problem.

The frequency is only one of the items you need. You also need to know if they are using a CTCSS/DCS tone, etc. It would be best to ask whomever handles your radios for your company. To get the frequency, you can also search the FCC database for your company.

We just bought them straight from motorolla 20 some years ago. We don't have a repater or anything other than what ever the cp200 came programed with. I didnt know we even had an FCC license since we are just using 2 way radios for security in our club with such limited range. Honestly we could get by with cobra walkie talkies but 25 years ago when we opened there wasn't as many options as there are now. Thank all of you for your help, I really appreciate it.

 

[panzer189]

That model number you listed for the CP200d is 403-470 MHz. I don't believe there is any such thing as 470-520 MHz split on the XTS. There is 380-470 and 450-520. So as long as it is one of those two, you shouldn't have a problem.

The frequency is only one of the items you need. You also need to know if they are using a CTCSS/DCS tone, etc. It would be best to ask whomever handles your radios for your company. To get the frequency, you can also search the FCC database for your company.

Also here is where I got the 470 to 520 from. My 4 letter is S. Am I wrong? If I am sorry, I dont know much about this but learning. Btw this came from the Motorola xts5000 type2 manual just so you know where I got the chart.

 

[K2NEC]

Was that from an official Motorola document?
This is the true spec sheet:

https://www.motorolasolutions.com/content/dam/msi/docs/business/products/two-way_radios/portable_radios/government_and_public_safety_portable_radios/xts_5000/_documents/static_files/r3-4-2009f_xts5000_new.pdf

 

[alcahuete]

Also here is where I got the 470 to 520 from. My 4 letter is S. Am I wrong? If I am sorry, I dont know much about this but learning. Btw this came from the Motorola xts5000 type2 manual just so you know where I got the chart.

Yeah, I'm not sure about that chart, honestly. There's definitely no 470-520 split on those radios, to my knowledge. The document that K2NEC posted is the one I'm familiar with as far as bandsplits are concerned.

I didnt know we even had an FCC license since we are just using 2 way radios for security in our club with such limited range.

That wouldn't surprise me. A lot of businesses use the radios unlicensed. But legally, you are required to have a license for any frequency those radios cover. I personally would not use my own radio if the business is not licensed, because if something would happen (i.e. causing interference to someone else) and the FCC got involved, they are very likely to come down on you personally as well. If you are using a business-issued radio, you can claim ignorance and let your employer take the 5-6 figure hit in fines.

 

[crazyboy]

Also here is where I got the 470 to 520 from. My 4 letter is S. Am I wrong? If I am sorry, I dont know much about this but learning. Btw this came from the Motorola xts5000 type2 manual just so you know where I got the chart.

That is an astro series chart, not an astro25 chart.