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dallascowboys

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working with my 436 this morning and looking up TGID's I have found a talk group that I can not find, this is in the Alabama AIRS System so here it is and hope someone can help on this subject .

Alabama AIRS P25 Phase II TGID 29200 Unknown This is what comes up on my scanner .
 

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Its Dale county, Ozark. Enter 769.35625 into your radio and see if it doesn't show up there.
I don't know about it being P25 Phase II though, I'll listen for a while and see what I hear.
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Thanks for the info, Once I find TGID and or Frequencies I always submit them so others can have them also . As a matter of fact just submitted one for Dothan, waiting on RR to update on their end.
 

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Ok maybe I was Wrong, this morning the above TGID was showing unknown, now this evening this same TGID is showing Ozark Police, is it possible for two departments to have the same TGIDs ?
 

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Ok maybe I was Wrong, this morning the above TGID was showing unknown, now this evening this same TGID is showing Ozark Police, is it possible for two departments to have the same TGIDs ?
If you added that TGID to the system, then it will no longer show as unknown.

Sounds like you are in ID Search mode, not ID Scan.

ID Scan mode will only scan TGIDs that you have programmed, as long as it is not set to Avoid, and is not in a Department that is set as Avoid. You would see whatever text tag is entered for that ID.

ID Search mode will display any active talkgroup that is not set as Avoid, and it is not in a department that is set to be avoided.

There would not be two different departments using the same talkgroup, with separate names entered.
 

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Its not the Houston County Wicksburg Police, its the southern site for Dale County SO, it just
happens to be on that tower (Wicksburg) close to Dale county. Dale county has 2 sites, in the database, and Ozark has 1 site,
already in the database. Ozark is TG 201 on it. I just looked at all 3 using DSDPlus and it shows Dale county and
Ozark as P25P1 but I don't know if different TG's and Radio's can be P25P2.
 

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Thanks everyone for the info, it was me that messed it up , yep that's what I did I added the TGID to the system , you can say I was to quick in thinking that this was Houston County sorry everyone .
 

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If I had only made 1 mistake. Keep making them we all enjoy helping and being helped.

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Ok here is what I have TGID 29200 Ozark Police Alabama AIRS , down below is some of their Unit ID's

Unit 2901244
2901391 Ozark Dispatch
2901232
2901216
2901324
2906305
2901347
2908308
2901362
2908306
2901202
2901321
2901223
2901334


Hope this helps someone
 

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There would not be two different departments using the same talkgroup, with separate names entered.
I did exactly this by accident before. I added the same TGID twice into our statewide system under two different departments. They both had different text tags.
I'm not sure how the x36HP or SDS models picked which one to display as it seemed random at times but one did show up more than the other when I reviewed logs after finding my mistake.
I only discovered it by accident one day when I'd done a temporary avoid on the TG and then noticed the TG was still being logged but with a different text tag.

I often wish Sentinel had a duplicate finder that could search for duplicate TG numbers within a system but it does not. I think ProScan's favorite editor may offer this but I've not messed with that yet. This could be handy for large statewide systems where there is a better chance of accidentally adding a duplicate or new TG with the same ID as another TG already in the system under a different department.
 

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Probably, the scanner displayed whichever one it got to first.

ProScan does have a duplicate finder, it's under Utilities on the Favorites Editing screen..
 

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dc lookup WQTS955 in FCC database. It is a license for City of Ozark.
lcn-----freq
00-0000 769.83125 CC
00-0220 772.58125
00-0112 771.23125
00-0184 772.13125
It is active with TG201 and TG101.
It is not in RR database under AIRS or Dale County. If anyone wants to
verify and report feel free. I have been wrong like you many times this maybe one
of them.

Mil
 
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