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CB Mount Location Ideas for 2017 Ford F-250

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I think given your situation, the small Uniden CMX-760 might be your best shot.
President Bill might tuck in somewhere small, but access and visibility might become a bigger challenge. I'm 6' 4", so I know the challenge. I had to install a VHF in my wifes Chevy Colorado, and that was a challenge to make it work for a 6'4" me and a 5'0" her.

Antenna is up to you. Ideal location is always the top of the cab. If you remove the rear 3rd brake light, you'll see there's some space up there to fit the antenna in. It won't be in the way of the sun roof.
If that's not where you want to go, then the side bracket off the front fender would be my next choice. This site might give you some good options: Antenna Brackets
 

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Passenger seat back. MOLLE panel. Put radio up high. (Velcro & straps). Use clothes hanger (headrest mount) to cover (hide).

Just did this in sons SUV. Used a TRC-1 carrier with the McKinley inside and KL-203 outside. Sirio 5000 on roof.

Ran 6-AWG power (borrowed from big truck project) thru firewall and under center console. Negative to seat bolt. (Split loom & zip ties). Nothing that feet or gear can entangle.

Anderson Power Poles to POWERWERX PDC-75 on carrier. West Mountain DSP speaker + amp + radio all powered from there. (Can run bigger amp if desired).

Speaker currently under drivers seat firing into footwell.

Gear all comes out and stores in a Harbor Freight transport case.
 
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I think given your situation, the small Uniden CMX-760 might be your best shot.
President Bill might tuck in somewhere small, but access and visibility might become a bigger challenge. I'm 6' 4", so I know the challenge. I had to install a VHF in my wifes Chevy Colorado, and that was a challenge to make it work for a 6'4" me and a 5'0" her.

Antenna is up to you. Ideal location is always the top of the cab. If you remove the rear 3rd brake light, you'll see there's some space up there to fit the antenna in. It won't be in the way of the sun roof.
If that's not where you want to go, then the side bracket off the front fender would be my next choice. This site might give you some good options: Antenna Brackets

That’s the ticket for location!!
 

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I've heard good things about the President radios, so I don't blame you for wanting to stick with them. The Bill seems like it would be a good fit for that tray area you're talking about (I have a 2016 F150 Lariat....it has the same interior as yours). I put my external speaker there for the time being. Seems to work fine. The reason I asked about height is because while I'm 6'0", my wife is 5 ft even and has to move the seat way up if she drives, so it would interfere if I mounted something on the outside of the console there.

Good point on the seat moving up because it's all the way back for me but my wife is a lot shorter than me and if she does drive she would probably move the seat forward enough to interfere. Now I'm thinking best spot may be to the right of the steering wheel and down a little on that flat trim. I'm not in the truck right now but I believe it's roughly around/under the trailer brake controller. The President Bill wouldn't be too heavy to secure there and I don’t think anything would interfere. If I did that I could then mount an external speaker in the tray on the side console towards the front so it wouldn't get hit if the seat was moved forward.

I know the President Bill is very small but also wondering if anyone knows if it has any decreased receceive abilities compared to the larger President models. I'm more concerned about receiving than I am output power.

Thank you very much for your info especially with you knowing the interior I'm trying to work with. They put so much stuff in these trucks now you can barely find an open spot to do anything. Last question would be do you by any chance have any pictures of your interior setup? Just wanted to visualize how you have done it.

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I think given your situation, the small Uniden CMX-760 might be your best shot.
President Bill might tuck in somewhere small, but access and visibility might become a bigger challenge. I'm 6' 4", so I know the challenge. I had to install a VHF in my wifes Chevy Colorado, and that was a challenge to make it work for a 6'4" me and a 5'0" her.

I'm new to the President radios so what are the benefits of the Uniden you mentioned over the President Bill? Thanks
 

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Antenna is up to you. Ideal location is always the top of the cab. If you remove the rear 3rd brake light, you'll see there's some space up there to fit the antenna in. It won't be in the way of the sun roof.
If that's not where you want to go, then the side bracket off the front fender would be my next choice. This site might give you some good options: Antenna Brackets

Thanks I haven't pulled that 3rd brake light cover off so I just assumed there wouldn't be any space behind it. I definitely want to go on the roof so just need to decide on hole or 3rd brake light cover. I'm going to pull the light off and look at the space under there to see what it looks like. I might actually retract the visor with the brake light off to see what clearance there is whe it's operating.
 

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Passenger seat back. MOLLE panel. Put radio up high. (Velcro & straps). Use clothes hanger (headrest mount) to cover (hide).

Just did this in sons SUV. Used a TRC-1 carrier with the McKinley inside and KL-203 outside. Sirio 5000 on roof.

Ran 6-AWG power (borrowed from big truck project) thru firewall and under center console. Negative to seat bolt. (Split loom & zip ties). Nothing that feet or gear can entangle.

Anderson Power Poles to POWERWERX PDC-75 on carrier. West Mountain DSP speaker + amp + radio all powered from there. (Can run bigger amp if desired).

Speaker currently under drivers seat firing into footwell.

Gear all comes out and stores in a Harbor Freight transport case.

Do you have a picture of this setup? It sounds interesting but I'm trying to figure out how accessible and easy to operate that would be.

Thanks
 

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Do you have a picture of this setup? It sounds interesting but I'm trying to figure out how accessible and easy to operate that would be.

Thanks

No pic, sorry. Not the vehicle owner.

AMAZON for a variety of tacticool MOLLE panels which belt to seat back. Some industrial Velcro also.

TAC-Comm TRC-1 Radio Carrier. Again, belted and Velcroed.

Attached D-ring to carrier and used a GEARKEEPER to hold mic (son may have modified by now).

POWER runs down inner seat-back edge with speaker audio + power cables (inside split loom attached to panel).
 

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I'm new to the President radios so what are the benefits of the Uniden you mentioned over the President Bill? Thanks

So, for me, all I really needed was something to listen to local CB traffic and occasionally talk to users in the immediate area. I'm not a 'cb power users', so I didn't need SSB, linear, or any of that other stuff. Just wanted to hear trucks on the highway in my immediate area. I didn't want a large CB cluttering things up. The way I have my VHF set up (Motorola CDM-1550) is to have the RF deck mounted behind the rear seat. I have a 6 gauge power feed coming direct from the battery and my coaxial cables there. I had a work 800MHz radio mounted in the truck, but had removed that at some point. The Uniden has the RF deck as a separate module. It's about the size of a paperback book. I mounted that in the back and connected to the existing NMO mount I had on the roof. The CB has all the controls, display and speaker on the hand held mic. The interconnecting cable is an RJ-45 cable.

So, small RF deck mounted behind the rear seat. Utilized existing 12 volt fused distribution block I already had installed for other radios. I used a speaker up front that I had from the 800MHz radio. I ran an Ethernet patch cord from behind the rear seat up to the dash board and installed an RJ-45 jack.
When I wanted to use the CB, I'd just pull out the mic and plug it in. Out of the way when I didn't need it (most of the time) but there when I was on longer trips.
All the controls are in the mic itself, and the mic is about the size of a standard professional radio microphone.
The external speaker made up for the shortcomings of the internal speaker in the mic, and made it much easier to listen to.

When I didn't need the setup in the way, I simply unplugged the mic from the RJ-45 jack and put it in the glove compartment.

I had the previously mentioned NMO mount on the roof right above the 3rd brake light from the 800MHz radio, so I reused that mount. I'd take the NMO rain cap off, screw my 30 year old Larsen NMO-27 in it's place, and was good to go.

I'm not what you'd consider a 'CB power user'. I didn't need, want, desire SSB, and I wasn't going to pay for it. I didn't need peak/tune by Cletus the golden screwdriver working out of his singlewide trailer down behind the truck stop. I just needed a CB that would let me listen in on local traffic and very rarely talk to users in the immediate area.
With the properly tuned and installed Larsen antenna on the roof, it did all that, and more. I had excellent reception due to the good antenna mounted up high. I could easily hear all the traffic around me (when there was CB traffic) and I could easily hear all the yakkity coming from the DX users (thank God for squelch). The few times I talked to other CB users it worked just fine. When I didn't need it, the antenna was removed and the mic unplugged and didn't have to deal with anything in my way or cluttering up the cab. No knees getting bashed on something mounted under the dash, no antenna hitting things when I was around town. Only thing visible when I had the CB in use was the antenna on the roof and the smallish mic on the dash. Nothing else. When I wasn't using it, the only thing visible was the NMO rain cap on the roof.

My personal truck is a 2018 F350 crew cab, but unlike yours, it's the XL trim, so no center console, vinyl seats, rubber floor.
The antenna tuned up well, I brought home my analyzer from work and had no issues tuning it to a nice low SWR across the band. Radiation pattern was less than ideal due to being mounted at the rear of the cab, but I didn't really have any issues with that since I was only using it locally, and it still outperformed the magmount truck stop antennas that many use.
 

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Here's the sweep of the Larsen NMO-27 mounted on the back of the cab. I don't have a sun roof, so you may see something different.
I had 1.3:1 on channel 1 and 40 and 1.07:1 on channel 19.
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Here's the sweep of the Larsen NMO-27 mounted on the back of the cab. I don't have a sun roof, so you may see something different.
I had 1.3:1 on channel 1 and 40 and 1.07:1 on channel 19.
5ik0x17.jpg

Thanks for all the info and yes I've got a Larsen NMO-27 on my other truck and it works perfectly. I'm definitely going with that antenna.
 

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No pic, sorry. Not the vehicle owner.

AMAZON for a variety of tacticool MOLLE panels which belt to seat back. Some industrial Velcro also.

TAC-Comm TRC-1 Radio Carrier. Again, belted and Velcroed.

Attached D-ring to carrier and used a GEARKEEPER to hold mic (son may have modified by now).

POWER runs down inner seat-back edge with speaker audio + power cables (inside split loom attached to panel).

I haven't thought of doing something like this but I'm definitely going to consider it. I'm a big gun guy and have quite a bit of that stuff already. It would definitely keep it out of the way.
 

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If I can "wedge" one question in here.....

I see so many people offer advice that "center of the cab roof! Drill a hole and mount it!!!!"

1) how do you deal with "parking garages" and "fast food joints"?

2) when you get ready to sell the vehicle, do you worry about patching the hole?

3) is the metal on the roof sturdy enough that regular little "plinks" and "boinks" won't bend the area all up? (they do happen!!!)
 

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If I can "wedge" one question in here.....

I see so many people offer advice that "center of the cab roof! Drill a hole and mount it!!!!"

1) how do you deal with "parking garages" and "fast food joints"?

Depends on the height of the truck and the height of the antenna.
My dad's truck is a 1/2 ton Chevy Silverado with a 1/4 wave VHF whip on the top. He parked it in the garage every night. The antenna would hit the garage door as he drove in/backed out. Didn't hurt anything, the antenna whip flexes, they are designed for that.
If he was running something taller like an NMO-27, well, you just remove it. Same with a parking garage.

My own personal truck is an F-350 4x4 with a 1/4 wave VHF whip on the roof. This whip has a spring in the base, and flexes just fine, but I don't push my luck since it's a tall truck. Finding other parking outside and taking a short walk is good for me.

I don't do drive throughs.

Longer antennas like the NMO-27 have very flexible whips and if you desire, can be upgraded to have a spring at the base. I would remove it off older trucks when going into parking garages just to prevent noise or causing damage to overhead lights.

Important part is to use a quality antenna that has some flex to it, and/or a spring at the base. Some of the silly looking ham antennas with no flex will have issues.


2) when you get ready to sell the vehicle, do you worry about patching the hole?

I usually remove the antennas (reuse them on the new truck) and install an NMO rain cap.
No matter what any lid tries to tell you, it does NOT detract from resale value. Last truck I traded in was a 2011 F150 with two NMO mounts on the roof. The truck was clean and I looked after it very well. I received top blue-book trade in value for it. The dealers don't care about the antennas since the trade in's often go to a broker site unseen and sold to other dealers based on need. My particular truck stayed at the local dealer and was sold there.

Vehicles I've sold myself, again, never had an issue. If they ask, just tell them, Oh, for cell phone, really improves the signal, and that's it.
 

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So you actually leave the NMO mount ON the vehicle?
Interesting!

Mine is an older F150 1/2 ton.... 2007...... so in truth I am not really worried about resale in this case.

My biggest concern IS the antenna getting bonked now and then, bending the roof metal and causing leaks.

To add to it.... I would be considering a 27 MHz antenna as well. I am an amateur and run 2M as well and those antennas are not so big. But when you go sticking a 102" whip or a long fiberglas stick up there that is awhole different story.

I very much appreciate your taking time to respond!

Bob

I usually remove the antennas (reuse them on the new truck) and install an NMO rain cap.
No matter what any lid tries to tell you, it does NOT detract from resale value. Last truck I traded in was a 2011 F150 with two NMO mounts on the roof. The truck was clean and I looked after it very well. I received top blue-book trade in value for it. The dealers don't care about the antennas since the trade in's often go to a broker site unseen and sold to other dealers based on need. My particular truck stayed at the local dealer and was sold there.

Vehicles I've sold myself, again, never had an issue. If they ask, just tell them, Oh, for cell phone, really improves the signal, and that's it.
 

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So you actually leave the NMO mount ON the vehicle?
Interesting!

Yeah, I do. Since the mounts seal very well, there's no need to remove it. I put the rain cap on and let it go.
You can remove the mount and they sell 3/4" hole plugs that snap in, but I don't use them. I just leave the mount in, tag the end of the cable and off it goes.

Mine is an older F150 1/2 ton.... 2007...... so in truth I am not really worried about resale in this case.

My biggest concern IS the antenna getting bonked now and then, bending the roof metal and causing leaks.

Unless you went into a really low garage and actually hit the coil, you might do some damage, but not with just the whip hitting things.

Real world example:
My current truck is a 2018 F-350 4x4 crew cab. Pretty tall truck. I used to have a Larsen NMOQWB on it. That's a 19" tall 1/4 wave antenna, wide band type, which means it has a thicker/stiffer whip and a stiff spring at the base.
I was in Las Vegas a few years ago. I pulled into a casino and into the underground parking. The roof got low really quick and bent the whip back at about a 90º angle. I couldn't stop where I was, so I just kept going. When I parked the truck, the spring had taken a bit of a lean to the rear, but the aluminum roof was not damaged, the NMO mount was fine, and the whip was fine. When I got home, I just ordered a new spring, but I could have certainly used it as is. So, complete fold over situation on an aluminum body, no damage to the truck at all.

I also have a Polaris Ranger UTV with a VHF radio in it. I have a Laird 1/2 wave NMO mount off the back of the roll cage. I went through a culvert under some railroad tracks and had about 4" of clearance above the roll cage. The whip/spring folded over a full 90º. I went through the culvert and the whip/spring bounced right back up to vertical, no issues, no damage.

So, a low parking garage, tree branch, etc. won't be an issue. You'd have to get really stupid and go into something with no clearance above the roof to cause any damage.

To add to it.... I would be considering a 27 MHz antenna as well. I am an amateur and run 2M as well and those antennas are not so big. But when you go sticking a 102" whip or a long fiberglas stick up there that is awhole different story.

Well, you absolutely would not want to mount a 102" whip on an NMO mount. They just are not designed for that.
But a Larsen NMO-27 will work just fine. I used to run those all the time and had no issues with low parking garages in Reno. They'd hit and make some noise, but that was it. Same with low tree branches and very unlucky birds.
 

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So you actually leave the NMO mount ON the vehicle?
Interesting!

NMO rain cap: https://www.theantennafarm.com/cata...=product_info&cPath=481_1026&products_id=3810

If you really want to remove the mount, you can install one of these snap in plugs:

Personally, I think the plug looks worse than just leaving the NMO in place and putting the rain cap on. At least that way someone could reuse it.
 

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That plate should provide the required support. Is it just the antenna mounting bolt assembly holding it into place, or does it require an adhesive as well?
 
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