CDR Spy Hill tower acting funny?

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I live west outside of Calgary & for the last while the only control channel I can see for Calgary Digital Spy Hill is 866.0625. I used to use 868.2125 & could sometimes hit other CC's from other sites a while back. I have been out of the digital game for a bit, was playing with analog this last while.
 

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I find the whole CDR system to be acting strange the last few weeks. Alot of the CPS talkgroups seem to suddenly to be dead, and If i have luck getting anything the dispatch for the specific district is inconsistant with the specfied talkgroup.

I live in the NW and always bounced between Spy Hill, Airport, and Bankers hall, and suddenly I seem to only get certain talk groups on certain towers with plenty of usually very active talk groups suddenly silent. Cant hear any 3 or 7 districts at all (typically on A3 but now silent), and it seems more activity occurs on the Special Freqs then the dispatch now as well, but again the talkgroup doesnt match the district (hearing 2 district on A5 or C5 etc). Something is up...
 
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I find the whole CDR system to be acting strange the last few weeks. Alot of the CPS talkgroups seem to suddenly to be dead, and If i have luck getting anything the dispatch for the specific district is inconsistant with the specfied talkgroup.

I live in the NW and always bounced between Spy Hill, Airport, and Bankers hall, and suddenly I seem to only get certain talk groups on certain towers with plenty of usually very active talk groups suddenly silent. Cant hear any 3 or 7 districts at all (typically on A3 but now silent), and it seems more activity occurs on the Special Freqs then the dispatch now as well, but again the talkgroup doesnt match the district (hearing 2 district on A5 or C5 etc). Something is up...

There are some zone changes taking place, both in name and definition.
 

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Hmm ok so I'm not the only one experiencing this, zone changes would makes sense. Strange you are loosing talk groups off the system. I'm still locked to 866.0625 but it has been real solid 3/5 reception, no fluctuation in signal strength with pretty spot on decoding. The only system I can't really get from before is the sheriff/courthouse, but that was never really that interesting anyhow. All my dispatch channels work 10/10, but interestingly enough I'm finding a lot of activity on the city wide channels this last while, pretty neat to listen to.
 

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Hmm ok so I'm not the only one experiencing this, zone changes would makes sense. Strange you are loosing talk groups off the system. I'm still locked to 866.0625 but it has been real solid 3/5 reception, no fluctuation in signal strength with pretty spot on decoding. The only system I can't really get from before is the sheriff/courthouse, but that was never really that interesting anyhow. All my dispatch channels work 10/10, but interestingly enough I'm finding a lot of activity on the city wide channels this last while, pretty neat to listen to.

I too have had a increase in citywide channels, however again they seem to be on the incorrect talk group.

Are there changes in the actual police district zoning (noticed unit numbers are changing around the city too, eg)1715 is now N715) or just radio freqs channels/talkgroups. I am really hoping for a database update soon if that is the case. I miss listening to the district I reside in on a tower im in range on.
 

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I'm usually on the Fish Creek tower,. Have noticed now and then that it seems strangely quiet.
One time a week or 2 ago I switched my Pro-106 from scanning Favorites, manually to the A6 TG object and suddenly there was activity. I chalked it up to a scanner anomaly but now I wonder.....
 

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Last night was odd. I tuned in late, there was something going on in 8 district (pretty sure is was a code 400) and the board was split. Code 400 was on A6 the rest of 6 and 8 district were on A3. Usually they go to C6.
 

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Been noticing the same as smason and saveyaris, a whole slew of new callsigns as well. But I seem to have been able to slowly figure out where my usual talkgroups have gone. Still hoping for a database update some day.
 

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But I seem to have been able to slowly figure out where my usual talkgroups have gone. Still hoping for a database update some day.

Please share anything you discover. I was following N133 down McLeod Tr. this afternoon. No idea what that means.
Can't say I've heard any odd callsigns lately other than SR (which I figured are school resource officers) I don't recall hearing them before, but then I mosly monitor at night.
 

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I dont like to share to much about what I hear, in this digital age, discussing police communication gives more ammo for the arguement of encryption in the future.

However with that said, I seem to be able to track most of what I used to track with ease after a few weeks of just observing all talkgroup traffic. Its just a matter of listening to different talk groups and figuring out what your hearing, its not clear cut as it used to be with simple callsigns matching the specific district and talkgroups, but for now I make due just fine. The CPS hasnt disclosed any new district zoning or provided any reasoning for the new callsign and radio useage publically, and I dont any of us would expect them to ever do so. Im not sure who creates/updates the database, but it can be noted that things have certainally changed. And I wish them good luck!



I dont think SR has anything to do with school resource, just one of many specialized units with their own callsign perhaps.

Im in the north and heres an example of what callsigns Ive been hearing

Norco
Northland
November
Tango (used before the changes as well)
Tango-November
PR

I am still hearing the odd "old unit number" up in the north. However when I tune in to action in the south, it seems that the old callsigns seem to still be intact, however citywide, the talkgroups certainlly have changed at least.
 
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I dont like to share to much about what I hear, in this digital age, discussing police communication gives more ammo for the arguement of encryption in the future..


I don't disagree, but I'm not sure how the database is going to get updated if no-one shares the changes :)
Also, if the info is in the database, isn't that just as good ammo for the encryption as a forum discussion?

I wonder how much concern there is locally about monitoring these days? I suspect the number of listeners on the trunked digital system today is significantly lower than back when they were conventional analog on 462 Mhz.
 

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All valid points...

They are savvy to listeners, I scan very often probally at least an hour aday, and often much more. Anything overly sensitive, they go straight to cell phone. I can attempt to document what I notice, but untill I wrap my head around what district these callsigns each belong too, It could be tough to determine talkgroups.

Cheers
 

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District 5 & 7 are now combined into the North Division and work off of old District 5's channel. District 2 also picked up part of the old District 7.

All vehicles now have N for North. The Street Sgt. is now North 01.

If you see an N car in another part of the city, it could be on a follow up, special called to assist another district, or doing a pay duty.
 
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