CFD Apparatus status

[HDMechanic]

Truck just showed up to the hall on friday and only had a couple of rescue items in it. Didnt even have any of the radios programed yet. I rember him saying that the resue unit is only temp unit untill they move to a new hall which is going to be built. The new unit was neat.

 

[Jay911]

The new hall is supposed to be part of the mega-mall. That's the reason Balzac fire station exists, is because the mall organizers built a hall (at least 'on paper') in exchange for some permissions etc.

As I mentioned, the rescue is still up in the air as to where it'll end up, officially, but you can just about put your money in the bank that it'll stay at 72.

All radios on the CFD DRS have to be programmed by CFD, CPS, or Enmax. It's a rule to prevent unauthorized/bandit users.

 

[ENGINE_4]

CFD now has the money for the new trucks. But with the long waiting list CFD will be getting some leased trucks to.

so 2 questions. 1.) dose anyone know which company CFD is leasing from?

2.) and dose anyone where were getting the new trucks from? smeal etc...

,thanks

 

[Jay911]

There are only a few fire truck manufacturers/sales agencies in North America - under 20 that Calgary would consider, I'd say. Phoenix Emergency Equipment in Red Deer does a lot of service and repair work - I don't know if they do manufacturing or sales anymore. EMERGENCY-ONE used to have a branch in Red Deer called Superior (which in turn used to be an independent company before E-One bought them out) but I think they went under and E-One only sells out of their Ocala, FL headquarters now. Calgary's love interest as of late has been Spartan Rosenbauer for pumps and emergencies (and the like) and Smeal for aerials.

There's also KME (Kovatch Mobile Equipment, or Keep Mechanics Employed), and Pierce - a lot of the older aerial apparatus and some of the pumpers are Pierce models. RMES has just ordered a Pierce Contender pumper on a Kenworth (!!!) chassis which will be delivered in summer 2009.

Saulsbury may or may not still exist, and of course Seagrave, which subsides pretty decently on the (exclusive) FDNY contract alone, not to mention the other trucks they build.

American LaFrance is one of the oldest and keeps going in and out of receivership. Last I heard they had suspended operations again.

Other aerial manufacturers include Bronto (part of E-One, which also has its own aerial division), Simon-LTI (though they may have been bought out), Metz (more of a European company but gaining ground in North America), and I can't think of any more off the top of my head.

I was at 16 for a meeting today and took some pics in the boneyard. I'll try to post them later tonight.

 

[MrVelvet]

Do they call 25 Recovery "The Goo Truck"?

HAHAHAHA!

 

[ENGINE_4]

well i hope there new aerials are through smeal!!!!, was CFD swamped lastnight fighting those 2,2-alarm fires?, dose anyone have a run down of the response?( cause that would be awsome!!!), thanks

 

[ENGINE_4]

dose anyone know if CFD has started to lease any new trucks yet?

 

[Jay911]

I'm not sure that leasing is in the cards, but I could be wrong. You're definitely not going to see any trucks appearing on city streets this week or next.

I was talking last night with a district chief who mentioned that a company had shown them a 75 foot single-rear-axle aerial that they could have right away, i.e. a demo unit for purchase, but it would not last any length of time in this climate and work load. CFD passed on it.

I'm almost 100% certain you will not see any new CFD apparatus specificaly built for CFD until 2010, even if they start building the first truck this afternoon.

 

[MrVelvet]

Hey Jay,

What unit is called "Saphire"?

Just heard that asked for by the West Chief at a working fire.

 

[Jay911]

The SAFIRE device (I don't know what the acronym stands for) is a handheld air quality measuring tool that is carried on the Air Monitoring Vehicle. It is used to measure a number of things about the quality of the atmosphere in any given space. Haztechs can take this thing off the AMV (or just take the whole AMV) to a fire scene and measure the air there to tell the commander if the scene is suitable for occupancy.

 

[MrVelvet]

Another question - is West Chief new?

He really seems to have problems working the radio correctly. He was trying to contact dispatch on C2 all throughout the fire and now he's switched over to C3 and is talking to 31 pump like they are dispatch.

 

[Jay911]

I believe there are a lot of 'acting' chiefs in August due to the summer and holidays and such.

For what it's worth, Spy Hill appears to have taken the day off. I couldn't get the control channel on Unitrunker this morning, and I see that it's completely down on Zonewatch today when I got in.

 

[MrVelvet]

Yesterday afternoon the Voice Alert channel on Spy Hill was broadcasting dead air continuously - I had to lock it out, so I don't know if it's still doing it.

 

[Jay911]

No, that would have been unrelated, I think. That often happens when a mic gets stuck at one of the 'alarm boards' at the firehalls.

Spy Hill trunk site is completely off the grid - no CC, no link to the zone controller, down.

 

[ENGINE_4]

so due to this arsonist, is there going to be another engine/pumper company (which ever you like)

stationed perhaps at station #20?

 

[Jay911]

I seriously doubt it.. this is a random occurrence.. IMO some kid or child-mentality person with nothing better to do at 3am.

CFD has an intricate plan designed by computer model that designs where their stations should go. They base it mainly on centrally locating a station to optimize response time for a community/area.

 

[ENGINE_4]

so jay, what your saying is if this arsonist keeps in striking, CFD will deploy accordingly, so in other words deplaying a Squad into the area effected at night when the arsonist is more likly to strike?

 

[MrVelvet]

No, I think what Jay, (and correct me if I'm wrong), was saying is that the current stations and apparatus were selected to provide the best coverage possible to the surrounding area.

If the CFD knew where any arsonist was going to strike to be able to place a squad there - you think they'd let CPS know to stop the arsonist before anything happened.

Squads will move in however in the event of large incidents to provide coverage for the stations out on the call(s).

 

[MrVelvet]

Was a new Bronto put in service or just a maintenance switch for 2 Station? I just heard them say "16 Bronto is now 2 Bronto".

 

[ENGINE_4]

=D, ok i get it now, thanks guy's, Mr.Velvet i don't have a scanner so i can't help you with your Bronto

question, but do you know if the fire in Citadel went to a 3-alarm?

, thanks