Chemung County RRDB Listings

[k2hz]

I am working on a general cleanup of the RRDB data for Chemung County. Some of the data seems to be very old and unverified and I need some current local input to bring it up to date.

LAW - 156.030 is missing NAC info.

FIRE - I did a general cleanup and fixed some missing or incorrect data but either PL/DPL data or confirmed CSQ is needed for several Fire frequencies:
453.8875, 465.100, 465.1625, 468.1875, 460.500 & 465.4625

SERVICES - The list appears to be mostly an unverified dump of FCC data submitted in 2010.
WQEZ284 Public Safety/Multi-Talk 151.1975, 154.7625 & 154.845 - What is the present actual use and PL/DPL/CSQ info? Also need input frequencies for 154.7625 & 154.845 repeaters.
The State and County EMO listings 45.240, 45.440 & 45.600 look OK but missing PL/DPL/CSQ. Activity may be limited to drills and tests if they are still used.
The County Services/Emergency Ops listings for 154.055 and 453.575 are dubious. Per FCC application info 154.055 is a location that appears to be a "Sewer Plant" and the purpose of 453.575 is "Waste Disposal". What is the current use and PL/DPL/CSQ of these frequencies?

I see similar issues with area municipalities that I will address separately. RRDB depends on submissions from local listeners and submissions from Chemung have been very infrequent. Please help keep RRDB accurate and up to date.

 

[acj76]

I am working on a general cleanup of the RRDB data for Chemung County. Some of the data seems to be very old and unverified and I need some current local input to bring it up to date.

LAW - 156.030 is missing NAC info.

FIRE - I did a general cleanup and fixed some missing or incorrect data but either PL/DPL data or confirmed CSQ is needed for several Fire frequencies:
453.8875, 465.100, 465.1625, 468.1875, 460.500 & 465.4625

SERVICES - The list appears to be mostly an unverified dump of FCC data submitted in 2010.
WQEZ284 Public Safety/Multi-Talk 151.1975, 154.7625 & 154.845 - What is the present actual use and PL/DPL/CSQ info? Also need input frequencies for 154.7625 & 154.845 repeaters.
The State and County EMO listings 45.240, 45.440 & 45.600 look OK but missing PL/DPL/CSQ. Activity may be limited to drills and tests if they are still used.
The County Services/Emergency Ops listings for 154.055 and 453.575 are dubious. Per FCC application info 154.055 is a location that appears to be a "Sewer Plant" and the purpose of 453.575 is "Waste Disposal". What is the current use and PL/DPL/CSQ of these frequencies?

I see similar issues with area municipalities that I will address separately. RRDB depends on submissions from local listeners and submissions from Chemung have been very infrequent. Please help keep RRDB accurate and up to date.

I might be able to help out with this. I already picked up the tone for 465.1625 (it's C103.5), but I'll do a bulk submission after I record for a few days.

 

[k2hz]

I might be able to help out with this. I already picked up the tone for 465.1625 (it's C103.5), but I'll do a bulk submission after I record for a few days.

Thanks! Any input is greatly appreciated.

 

[k2hz]

Here are some more things I need input on.

Licenses expired long ago and no PL/DPL data so will be deprecated unless current activity and PL/DPL or CSQ can be confirmed:
Big Flats Fire 453.825 & 460.400
Erway Ambulance 47.60
Town & Country Fire 462.450

Missing PL/DPL or CSQ and confirmation still active:
Chemung (Town) Public Safety 453.500 & 453.600
Erin DPW 33.100
Horseheads DPW/Police 158.940
Horseheads Fire 453.525, 453.025, 453.525 & 453.550
Veteran Public Works 158.820

Missing NAC:
Southport PD Car-to Car - 156.090
(This listing is questionable since 156.090 is supposed to be input to Elmira PD 155.490 repeater. It will be deleted unless confirmed)

 

[PaMonitor]

From my notes:

154.845 NAC: 120
453.575 CT: 186.2

I removed 154.845 from my scanlist some time ago. It may still be active, but it was usually simulcast with another LE frequency that I got better reception with.

I haven't heard 453.575 for some timer. I re-entered into my Pro-197 this AM. Checking just now I had 0 hits. It was affiliated somehow with the Chemung County Landfill.

I removed Horseheads DPW/Police 158.940 as well. Sounded more like was more in line with animal control. I's still in my TRX-2, I'll dig out the tone later on.

 

[PaMonitor]

I did not find a tone for 158.940. I do however have 158.820 and 153.845 both listed with 146.2. I'm fairly certain that 158.820 is still active. Don't know if I've ever gotten 153.845. I also have 453.6 in my Pro-197 with a PL of 218.1 but it only shows 1 hit.

 

[k2hz]

Thanks for the info! I will add the PL for Town of Veteran and fix the description, (It is obviously not a "city").
Town of Chemung 453.6 license says it the DPW so the Public Safety/Multi-Talk tag is not correct so will change it to DPW and at least it has been active at some time since you have a PL. The 453.5 license says "Public Service Coordinator" so is also probably also Public Works but need to verify it is in use and the PL.

 

[MegaHertz315]

I might be able to help out with this. I already picked up the tone for 465.1625 (it's C103.5), but I'll do a bulk submission after I record for a few days.

Schuyler County Highway (to the north), uses 460.1625/ 465.1625in (103.5 PL) for Highway Ops. I'd suspect that Chemung County is NOT using the same PL (103.5) on Fire ch-5 as the county highway to the north.

 

[k2hz]

Schuyler County Highway (to the north), uses 460.1625/ 465.1625in (103.5 PL) for Highway Ops. I'd suspect that Chemung County is NOT using the same PL (103.5) on Fire ch-5 as the county highway to the north.

Good point! Also the OP is in Tompkins County so doubtful he would hear portables in Chemung. The listing said "BM" but frequency is Mobile only per FCC rules so I just corrected it. This is consistent with the "Fireground" use so activity can probably only be heard in the immediate vicinity.

Given the other known area usage it is possible many of these analog listings are actually P25.

The BM listings were part of the mindless data dump back in 2010 that is the basis for most of the Chemung listings that I am attempting to clean up. We really need to get some input from users in the area since it appears much of the present County data is incomplete, incorrect or obsolete.

 

[k2hz]

I am now looking at cleaning up the Elmira listings.

155.760 and 155.925 are both licensed to the Town of Elmira, not the City so I moved them to a new Elmira (Town) subcategory.
155.760 looks legitimate for the Town DPW but I need PL/DPL info if it is still active.
155.925 license expired in 2003 and it was for a base only, no mobiles. Can any confirm if it is active and PL/DPL?

155.820 & 155.880 appear to be City of Elmira Public Works but there is only a record of a base license, no mobiles.
Can anyone confirm activity, nature of use and PL/DPL?

453.1625 and 453.7375, Elmira Water Board, license expired in 2011 and was only for a pair of 2 Watt portables on each frequency.
This would be typical of some types of telemetry or remote control equipment and not voice dispatch. Any info about present use?

 

[acj76]

I already picked up the tone for 465.1625 (it's C103.5)

Disregard this, I'm not able to confirm anything about it.

 

[k2hz]

Disregard this, I'm not able to confirm anything about it.

You are apparent hearing Schuyler County Highway mobiles on the input to their 460.1625 repeater. You should hear the 460.1625 consistently but your reception on the 165.1625 mobile side will be only of mobiles near the Tompkins County line or on high ground.

 

[PaMonitor]

Overnight my TRX-2 recorded three instances of 154.845. The EZ Scan Metadata shows it as P25 with an NAC 120. The longest clip was three seconds, something about a 26 or 46 for someone. It also showed a TG 1 and three different RID's. I won't vouch for the 120 NAC as there could be others but it is definitely P25. Searching through my archives also showed the NAC 120. I likely Rx it from Jerusalem Hill. I omitted it as I didn't really get it all that well.

Speaking of archives, I found a tone for 453.025 which 186.2. Since RRDB displayed it without the tone I have always used tone=none. So I changed that to tone = SRCH and then saved the 186.2 PL. The DB shows this with a 458.025 input that I am unable to verify. I'm not all that sure about it being Fire - Tactical either. I usually get it along with 155.25 CC FD Paging. that is generally EMS.

Really need someone from Chemung County to check these.

 

[k2hz]

All these clues are helping me sort things out. But, we need good input from listeners in Chemung. Much of the data is from 2010 and was questionable or possibly obsolete even when it was submitted. I am going to start marking the really questionable stuff deprecated unless someone can confirm it is active and fill in missing details like PL/DPL and description of the actual use.

A frequency listed as Services FMN that is likely now either Law P25 or unused is useless and only a source of confusion for scanner listeners using pre-programmed scanners or RRDB based downloads.

 

[k2hz]

I moved 154.1375 Elmira Heights/Horseheads PD dispatch from Elmira Heights to County Law. It is a County frequency and dispatched by County Comm Center like other Law agencies.

154.845 NAC120 appears to be another active County Comm Center frequency but I need to know what the designated use is.

I question the 158.940 listing as Horseheads DPW/Police. The Police use is doubtful and it appears to be Public Works only.

 

[k2hz]

I have established contact with a reliable listener who lives in the County. He confirmed my worst fears that most of "the frequencies listed for the RadioReference database for Chemung County don't get used for what is listed there or don't get used at all".

The most serious problem is that City of Elmira FD is actually dispatched on County Fire Ch. 3 which was Tagged Fire-Tac and the Fire Dispatch frequency listed under the City of Elmira is apparently unused for many years. The County Fire listings have been updated.

I also have reliable info that Low Band Fire is deprecated and many Town Fire listings may be unused. I am tagging all Low Band Fire frequencies and any Town Fire frequencies with licenses expired years ago as Deprecated.

The Deprecated Tag means the frequency will be deleted from the RRDB after 30 days if no one speaks up to confirm present use.

I will likely be deprecating or revising other Chemung listings after further review on a case by case basis without further posts on here.

If you have concerns about the accuracy of the Chemung RRDB listings I suggest you watch the Chemung listings for changes and submit if you have any corrections or additions.

 

[PaMonitor]

453.1625 and 453.7375, Elmira Water Board, license expired in 2011 and was only for a pair of 2 Watt portables on each frequency.
This would be typical of some types of telemetry or remote control equipment and not voice dispatch. Any info about present use?

A new License for Elmira Water Board was granted 03/31/2022 .

FCC Callsign WRPX348 (Elmira Water Board)

FCC Callsign WRPX348 (Elmira Water Board)

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Ran the 461.4125 for a while this AM. Returned DCDM D1/2 but I saw no actual signal. For all practical purposes I cannot get it. It would be preferable if someone in or near Elmira could monitor it