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I found Ops 2 thru 4 listed (460.45, 453.8375, and 453.85) and plugged them in. For the past 2 days I've been hearing traffic on Ops2, which is almost certainly CHP Capitol Ops (as a supplement to 460.375). It has the same PL of 127.3.

Question: Does anyone know what the use is? Is it for peak periods...records? Also, there's some extensive listing of frequencies on several sites. Besides the main dispatch channels for patrol, which other freqs are important? I have blue and ivory (supposedly air to air and air to ground). What do I need to have programmed to not miss any traffic?
 

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Bill,

I don't have a clue on those frequencies. I've listened to them over here and haven't heard any traffic at all. 453.825, the old State Police frequency, is being used to rebroadcast Bay Area CHP traffic but there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason as to why it's being done since different CHP offices will often step on traffic that's already being broadcast. My understanding is that 453.8375 and 453.850 is used for dignitary protection details but we never get any dignitaries up here unless there's a disaster. :)

Blue (42.34) is commonly used for air to ground for speed traps, especially on I-80 and I-5. It's almost always rebroadcast on the extender (154.905) frequency so it's a good way to know if there are any speed operations going on near you.
 

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Sid,

I've heard speed details on the Ivory as well but it seems to be more in the South Bay and the 101 corridor. All the speed details that I've heard on I-80, especially the usual ones around Auburn, are on Blue. Don't know if that's a coincidence or what. Like I wrote, I can usually hear them pretty good on the extender frequency as well.
 

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CHP Blue . . .

CHP Blue is a Statewide, common channel that is in all CHP mobiles, regardless of what area. It is used by a lot of areas as a secondary tac channel for special ops, i.e. speed patrols with aricraft and ground units.

In Los Angeles, CHP broadcasts all SigAlerts on Blue, which the media monitors for just that reason. A bonus for the media is that most of the pursuits in LA area also run on Blue, as there are so many CHP areas that are close together.

Hope this helps . . .
 

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I have heard speed enforcement on SR-4 several times on the Ivory. Maybe they use it when someone else is on the blue, I don't know.
 

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Most of the preceeding freqs were California State Police- when they still existed prior to being absorbed into the CHP. The good old days of scanning!

I assert/believe these channels still exist as CSP provided comms for "tenant" agencies such as DMV investigators (David Units if I recalll correctly) and ABC (Adam Units as I recall). 453.825 is in use in the Bay Area and I know DMV still uses it although CHP services the channel/users. Similar situation in Sacto? I bet so.

As I recall- CSP units were letter/number Ids with the letter signifying thier office, sF units were Frank, Oakland were Ocean etc. By extrapolation could that mean if the unit id's were left intact for the Capitol that perhaps they were Sam (Sacramento) or Charles (Capitol) units? Something to listen for.

In consultation with the 1988 edition of Bob Kelty's GRS Directory:

Department of General Serivces- State Police Division

460.375 127.3 Sacramento Command No site listed
Dignitary Protection units 'Alfa 1-199'

460.450 127.3 North State Command - Sac/Stock/Red/Oroville
t1 127.3 Sacramento
t2 131.8 Butte/Bloomer Hill
t3 136.5 Shasta/Sugarloaf Ridge

460.450 127.3 Inland Valley Command
t1 127.3 Fresno/Black Mtn
t2 131.8 Unassigned
t3 136.5 Joaquin Ridge
t4 141.3 Shirley Peak
t5 146.2 Telegraph Hill

453.835 127.3 Central Coast Command
t1 127.3 Mt. Tam
t2 131.8 Mt. Diablo
t3 136.5 Loma Prieta
t4 141.3 Sonoma Mtn.
t5 146.2 Unassigned

Hope that helps and all hail to the almighty Kelty & E.T.!

Everything you NEVER wanted to know about the CSP/CHP Merger- from the CHP web site;

On July 12, 1995, 271 uniformed officers of the State Police became part of the 5,713 sworn officers of the Highway Patrol. The 68 non-uniformed employees of the CSP transferred to existing civil service classifications, with the exception of CSP's Communications Operators who were assimilated into the CHP's Communications Operator II classification. The 269 uniformed personnel changed from California State Police classifications to new CHP classifications established specifically for the consolidation.

In order to complete this transition of former CSP personnel into CHP classifications, a comprehensive three-phase training program was developed. This training was designed to provide CSP personnel with the tools necessary to successfully perform the full range of the new duties for CHP classifications. Mandatory courses ranging from four days to three weeks were implemented for both uniformed and non-uniformed staff including field orientation periods for specified classifications. Almost all CSP personnel successfully transitioned into CHP's corresponding rank structure and now receive the same pay and benefits.

The merger did not increase CHP's uniformed personnel strength beyond the addition of the authorized CSP staffing level. As a result, the CHP assumed responsibility only for those services which were provided by the CSP at the time of consolidation. In June 1995, all state agencies/departments were provided with details about the merger and the enforcement responsibilities assumed by the CHP. Local police departments and sheriffs offices were also contacted to discuss procedures for responding to calls on state facilities located in their jurisdictions. The CHP continued several contracts for expanded services, including the following state facilities:


Department of Motor Vehicles - patrol services on a full-time basis for the Hope Street office in Los Angeles; security services at hearings.
Employment Development Department - patrol services on a full-time basis at unemployment offices in Los Angeles and the Bay Area; security services at hearings.
Board of Equalization - serving tax seizure and arrest warrants.
Franchise Tax Board - serving tax seizure and arrest warrants.
California Courts of Appeal - providing security services at hearings.
Department of Water Resources - maintaining six field offices dedicated to the State Water Project including both ground and air surveillance services. (Contract expired December 1995.)
Department of Consumer Affairs - providing security services at hearings.
Department of Transportation - providing police services at the Transbay Transit Terminal located in San Francisco.

The CHP will also provide providing dignitary protection services for the following agencies:


Secretary of State
State Treasurer's Office
State Controller's Office
State Superintendent of Public Instruction
Department of Insurance

The CHP cataloged every state-owned building and facility in California to provide a resource for dispatching officers to service calls.

One of the key benefits of the CSP/CHP consolidation was efficiencies in governmental expenditures and operations. Preliminary fiscal analysis, however, indicated that there would be both costs and savings associated with the merger although it was originally anticipated that most of the savings would be immediate, while many of the costs would be spread over several years.

The fiscal profile initially developed showed costs/savings in two main categories: "personnel services" and "operating expenses & equipment." During the fiscal planning for the merger, the CHP estimated it could realize substantial savings in equipment and operating expenses, however, fiscal problems developed in three primary areas:


Communications: Unanticipated costs were incurred to update and repair CSP telecommunications equipment to ensure its compatibility with existing CHP equipment. Unplanned costs also resulted with the reestablishment of CSP radio communications operations in CHP dispatch centers. Originally, plans called for consolidation of the CSP/CHP dispatch centers after the first year; however, due to operational issues the centers were consolidated as soon as feasible.
Facilities: Savings in the rental of facilities did not occur at the same rate as initially anticipated, although all but four facilities were vacated and operations assimilated into CHP facilities. The Department was required to continue rental payments for a longer period of time than expected after vacating some buildings owned and controlled by the Department of General Services.
Equipment: The CHP anticipated that CSP vehicles owned by the Department of General Services would be transferred during the merger at no additional cost to the Department, however, the CHP was required to purchase the vehicles from DGS to maintain the existing level of service.

The consolidation, however, has resulted in undetermined savings by reducing redundancies including vacating 12 leased facilities, eliminating duplicate contracts for services, and streamlining contracts for law enforcement services.

The primary focus of the Highway Patrol has always been California's freeways and the highways in the unincorporated areas of our state, but the merger with the CSP has changed and broadened the scope of the Department. The CHP assumes the responsibilities of protecting the Governor and other constitutional officers, as well as everyone who works in or visits a state building. To accomplish this new mission, the CHP absorbed and integrated the following CSP units into its organizational structure:


Office of Dignitary Protection (ODP) - The reorganization merely placed ODP under the CHP but its role did not change. ODP provides protection to state constitutional officers and other dignitaries as appropriate or provided for under contractual agreements. ODP is also responsible for the Department's Explosive Ordinance Unit and dignitary threat assessments/investigations.
Office of Capitol Services (OCAPS) - OCAPS, formerly known as the CSP Capitol Corps is responsible for providing security and protection on the grounds of the State Capitol including the Legislative Office Building adjacent to the Capitol. The Department's Equestrian and Bicycle Units are assigned to OCAPS as well. Additionally, OCAPS is responsible for coordinating security efforts with the Senate and Assembly Sergeants-at-Arms for security of the legislature.
Office of Court Services (OCS) - OCS consolidates reimbursable court security services provided throughout the state under one command. Pending final contractual approvals, OCS will be responsible for providing security services to the Supreme and Appellate Courts at various locations in California although it will be headquartered at the Supreme Court in San Francisco.

On July 12, 1995, when the Highway Patrol assumed the authority and responsibilities formerly held by the State Police, a "changing-of-the-guard" ceremony was held at the CHP Academy in West Sacramento to commemorate an organization that had provided 108 years of service to the State of California. The CSP/CHP merger offers advantages to the citizens of California through better service, greater protection and reduced expenditures.

In the same way that the CHP has always trained its officers to consider no traffic stop as "routine", the responsibility for the security of people working in state buildings will never be taken lightly. With the increased resources of the CHP behind them, state employees and facilities will be safer than ever before. Most states have one governmental law enforcement agency and now California joins this group. The CHP confidently accepts this expanded role because the Highway Patrol will now be able to provide a level of service even beyond that which has always been defined for the Department - the emphasis is unchanged; the one constant is how well the CHP will serve the public.

Enjoy!
Mike
 
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commstar said:
I assert/believe these channels still exist as CSP provided comms for "tenant" agencies such as DMV investigators (David Units if I recalll correctly) and ABC (Adam Units as I recall). 453.825 is in use in the Bay Area and I know DMV still uses it although CHP services the channel/users. Similar situation in Sacto?



The former CSP DAVID units were the Dignitary Protection Detail statewide.

DMV used to use some odd callsigns starting with 11-VICTOR, but later it seemed as though they just changed to "DMV" numbers.

State Parole seemed to just use "PAROLE" numbers and the Medical Board Investigators used MEDICAL BOARD numbers, so those two weren't to hard to figure out.
 

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BTW, the Ivory does not exist anymore. The 45.02 freq is now 1/2 of one of
the eight TAC channels, though I don't have my list here at the moment.
 
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