CLAY ELECTRIC COOPERATIVE, INC. DMR Trunking

[bravo14]

I was looking at certain Counties towards NE FL area and notice CEC INC has 7K60FXD 7K60FXE 7K60FXW Appears to be DMR Trunking. Callsigns for FCC FRN: 0001825504 (CLAY ELECTRIC COOPERATIVE, INC.)
Not sure if anyone in the following counties can confirm this if they are active or sites are being put together......
Alachua
Bradford
Clay
Columbia
Marion
Putnam
Union

 

[kd4efm]

To my understanding this is supposed to be a Tier 3 system
I will DSD+ scan for it and see what I can come up with.

 

[bravo14]

In 2 weeks I'll be in some of those areas. I had someone try some of the freqs in their area nothing yet not even a Cntrl Ch.

 

[whooey]

Have not listened in awhile but my local clay was conv analog about a year ago, I tune in when my power goes out lol.

 

[bravo14]

Have not listened in awhile but my local clay was conv analog about a year ago, I tune in when my power goes out lol.

Sometimes I think certain power companies use computer for dispatch at times unless there is a disaster that hit the area than hear lots of talking.

 

[bravo14]

I was in the NE area last weekend and some days this week. I did see this on 451.0875 dcc 0 tg 87923 rid 81921 82442. It didn't show sysid or site. It is a Tier lll system I did see that pop up on the sds100.

2021/08/24 20:01:47 Freq=451.087500 DCC=0 Bcast Group call; TG=87923 RID=82442 Slot=2 1s
2021/08/24 20:02:13 Freq=451.087500 DCC=0 Group call; TG=87923 RID=81921 Slot=1 Pri2 7s
2021/08/24 20:02:23 Freq=451.087500 DCC=0 Group call; TG=87923 RID=82442 Slot=1 1s
2021/08/24 20:02:25 Freq=451.087500 DCC=0 Group call; TG=87923 RID=81921 Slot=1 Pri2 3s
2021/08/24 20:02:34 Freq=451.087500 DCC=0 Bcast Group call; TG=87923 RID=82442 Slot=2 1s

Now this is below what it came up with. I couldn't find no info on offset freq. I didn't have no freqs and cec inc setup on dsd wasn't too sure if it was up and running. If you see TALAUIN ELECTRIC COOPERATIVE that isn't the system that is another system out in the big bend area. I wonder if anyone else can figure out the system? It might be Network 115.
I have copied and pasted into notepad.

 

[bravo14]

I was looking at the recordings I had when bands were open up. On 451.0875 Color 0 Site 2 tg 87923 that's all I see on the sds100.

 

[bravo14]

Here is a pdf file for freqs and locations

 

[bravo14]

If anyone in the area(s) can confirm if it is site 115?

 

[lwvmobile]

Stumbled across Lake City on 451.1375 SDRTrunk is showing VOTE NOW FOR TINY NETWORK:0 SITE: 6 so, not sure if that means that Lake City is Site 6 or if that is something else entirely.

Also, had a channel grant for LSN 2050 LCN 1024 on the same system as well while using SDRTrunk, so not quite sure what that means in the context of if thats a bad read on the CC since its faint and fading in and out, or if that maps to a channel number.

DSDPlusFL is showing me CH3 is CC, with channels 3,4,5,6 and nothing for 1,2. Guessing either they don't exist, or not enough traffic to loop back around to 1 and 2. Don't really know how DMR TIII works. Sadly, I don't have DSDPlus FL set up to use the dongles directly, just piping in audio from SDR++ straight into it and trying to view the spectrum while SDRTrunk uses the other dongle to see what data correlations I can make.

Edit: Well, just had another vote for tiny network site 2, so must be something else entirely.

 

[bravo14]

DMR T3 works different from Con+ & Cap+. Have you seen any TG's pop up on that system? I couldn't get much on that system last time I was over that way back in August. Hoping this trip coming up to get more info and hoping to get all sites & info.

 

[lwvmobile]

I'll just dump the event info that I got

2021/10/21 11:01:44 Current network: T1
2021/10/21 11:01:44 Current site: T1-1.1
2021/10/21 11:01:46 No data for current site found in DSDPlus.frequencies file
2021/10/21 11:03:28 ACK: REG/DEREG ACCEPT Tgt=82355 Src=REGI
2021/10/21 11:06:53 ACK: REG/DEREG ACCEPT Tgt=82335 Src=REGI
2021/10/21 11:07:08 ACK: REG/DEREG ACCEPT Tgt=82308 Src=REGI
2021/10/21 11:07:10 ACK: MSG ACCEPT Tgt=82308 Src=16776947
2021/10/21 11:14:40 ACK: REG/DEREG ACCEPT Tgt=82351 Src=REGI
2021/10/21 11:14:42 ACK: MSG ACCEPT Tgt=82351 Src=16776947
2021/10/21 11:15:29 ACK: REG/DEREG ACCEPT Tgt=82354 Src=REGI
2021/10/21 11:17:23 ACK: REG/DEREG ACCEPT Tgt=82351 Src=REGI
2021/10/21 11:17:25 ACK: MSG ACCEPT Tgt=82351 Src=16776947
2021/10/21 11:27:59 ACK: REG/DEREG ACCEPT Tgt=82500 Src=REGI
2021/10/21 11:32:59 ACK: REG/DEREG ACCEPT Tgt=82522 Src=REGI
2021/10/21 11:48:24 Bcast Group call; TG=87922 RID=82476 Slot=2 3s
2021/10/21 11:48:45 Group call; TG=87922 RID=81921 Ch=5
2021/10/21 11:49:03 Group call; TG=87922 RID=81921 Ch=4
2021/10/21 11:52:57 ACK: REG/DEREG ACCEPT Tgt=82348 Src=REGI
2021/10/21 11:52:58 ACK: MSG ACCEPT Tgt=82348 Src=16776947
2021/10/21 12:08:14 ACK: REG/DEREG ACCEPT Tgt=82273 Src=REGI
2021/10/21 12:09:41 ACK: REG/DEREG ACCEPT Tgt=82323 Src=REGI
2021/10/21 12:09:41 ACK: REG/DEREG ACCEPT Tgt=82360 Src=REGI
2021/10/21 12:09:43 ACK: MSG ACCEPT Tgt=82360 Src=16776947
2021/10/21 12:18:15 ACK: REG/DEREG ACCEPT Tgt=82335 Src=REGI
2021/10/21 12:18:47 Group call; TG=87922 RID=81921 Ch=6
2021/10/21 12:19:09 Group call; TG=87922 RID=81921 Ch=5
2021/10/21 12:19:25 Group call; TG=87922 RID=81921 Ch=4
2021/10/21 12:19:42 ACK: REG/DEREG ACCEPT Tgt=82335 Src=REGI
2021/10/21 12:20:07 ACK: REG/DEREG ACCEPT Tgt=82360 Src=REGI
2021/10/21 12:20:08 ACK: MSG ACCEPT Tgt=82360 Src=16776947
2021/10/21 12:21:17 ACK: REG/DEREG ACCEPT Tgt=82348 Src=REGI
2021/10/21 12:21:19 ACK: MSG ACCEPT Tgt=82348 Src=16776947
2021/10/21 12:29:18 ACK: REG/DEREG ACCEPT Tgt=82023 Src=REGI
2021/10/21 12:29:20 ACK: MSG ACCEPT Tgt=82023 Src=16776947
2021/10/21 12:29:43 ACK: MSG ACCEPT Tgt=82023 Src=16776947
2021/10/21 12:52:12 ACK: REG/DEREG ACCEPT Tgt=82292 Src=REGI
2021/10/21 12:54:16 ACK: REG/DEREG ACCEPT Tgt=82299 Src=REGI
2021/10/21 12:58:16 ACK: REG/DEREG ACCEPT Tgt=82323 Src=REGI
2021/10/21 12:58:17 ACK: MSG ACCEPT Tgt=82323 Src=16776947
2021/10/21 13:00:34 ACK: REG/DEREG ACCEPT Tgt=82357 Src=REGI
2021/10/21 13:04:16 ACK: REG/DEREG ACCEPT Tgt=82335 Src=REGI
2021/10/21 13:09:26 Group call; TG=87922 RID=81921 Ch=4
2021/10/21 13:09:47 Group call; TG=87922 RID=81921 Ch=6
2021/10/21 13:10:07 Group call; TG=87922 RID=81921 Ch=5 9s
2021/10/21 13:10:48 Group call; TG=87922 RID=81921 Ch=6
2021/10/21 13:11:07 Group call; TG=87922 RID=81921 Ch=6
2021/10/21 13:11:35 Private Call Alert; Tgt=82341 Src=SUPLI
2021/10/21 13:12:23 Private Call Alert; Tgt=82341 Src=SUPLI
2021/10/21 13:12:31 Private Call Alert; Tgt=81971 Src=SUPLI
2021/10/21 13:12:38 Private Call Alert; Tgt=82341 Src=SUPLI
2021/10/21 13:12:55 Private Call Alert; Tgt=81971 Src=SUPLI
2021/10/21 13:14:55 Private Call Alert; Tgt=81971 Src=SUPLI
2021/10/21 13:15:04 Private Call Alert; Tgt=82341 Src=SUPLI
2021/10/21 13:18:10 Reg/Auth/MS Check; Tgt=82523 Src=TSI

Groups just seem to be 87921 and 87922

TIII, 1, 87921, 50, Normal, 7, 2021/10/20 17:17, ""
TIII, 1, 87922, 50, Normal, 10, 2021/10/21 13:11, ""

Yeah, they don't seem to stay very busy on there, but I had a little activity just before I got tired of listening, the signal was getting pretty bad so I'll just have to wait and try to monitor it again in the early morning or late evening sometime.

 

[bravo14]

Do you know what RF Spacing they are using?
Guessing on these TalkGroups
87921 Channel 1
87922 Channel 2
*87923 Channel 3 (I did hear someone say Channel 3 back in Aug 2021 on Freq 451.0875)

 

[bravo14]

Stumbled across Lake City on 451.1375 SDRTrunk is showing VOTE NOW FOR TINY NETWORK:0 SITE: 6 so, not sure if that means that Lake City is Site 6 or if that is something else entirely.

When I to use the DMR Tlll/LSN/LCN freq calculator and used RF Spacing 6.25khz and plug in Ref Fre 451.1375 and Ref LSN 250 it shows up LSN 249/250 & LCN as 124.

 

[bravo14]

On 12/10 I was on i75 near Gainesville and got a hit on (sds100) 451.2125 lcn 2054 color 0 and tg 87924. The screen shows site 6. I didn't stop anywhere to use dsdplus to confirm if it is 4.1 or 6. Last time I was near there I was using dsdplus was showing 4.1 Here is a pdf file I setup a few months back anyone can confirm on lcns and sites?

 

[wirr]

Some possible CEC sites:
T1-2.1 454.36875 c0 near Jacksonville
T1-4.2 454.38125 c0 heard from I-10 east of Lake City

 

[bravo14]

Some possible CEC sites:
T1-2.1 454.36875 c0 near Jacksonville
T1-4.2 454.38125 c0 heard from I-10 east of Lake City

I moved a few days ago and have all my setup yet. I have the files on desktop which is not hooked up yet been working long hours and moving between.

 

[bravo14]

Some possible CEC sites:
T1-2.1 454.36875 c0 near Jacksonville
T1-4.2 454.38125 c0 heard from I-10 east of Lake City

I was not able to find any of those freqs listed on the DB. I don't think they use the last 5 digits of the freq like that.

here is the FRN list

RR Database Home

The most complete database of radio communications data

www.radioreference.com

 

[lwvmobile]

T1-2.1 454.36875 c0 near Jacksonville
T1-4.2 454.38125 c0 heard from I-10 east of Lake City

I wasn't able to pick up anything on those freqs, but I might be too far west of Lake City to get them. I can get the Lake City site pretty decently sometimes, the ones I've already covered at 451.1375 and 452.0125. Just tuned in to them for a bit actually, and getting voice activity on both. Not really doing any advanced TIII decoding though, just the voice. CEC isn't in my usual rotation of stuff to listen to.

 

[wirr]

Callsign WQMX306 appears to cover the operations on 454.36875 and 454.38125.