The frequencies you have listed are itinerant for the entire federal government. It is possible you are not monitoring the U.S. Forest Service.
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The frequencies you have listed are itinerant for the entire federal government. It is possible you are not monitoring the U.S. Forest Service.
Possible but unlikely due to the chatter about hoses, smoke, etc as well as later on a crew came in on CNF Admin to report they were leaving some site and a small amount of smoke would be visible to populated areas. I took the latter to imply they expected concerned citizens to call in reports of smoke emanating from the forest. Once in a while one of the TAC frequencies gets busy with encrypted P25 and I assumed it was not USFS traffic.
probably on Forrest net or admin and the r5tacs
Adding Rescue n (noisy signal on Forest Net, so I might have missed the number if it was there)
Black Eagles, Sequoia NF Tribal Crew/Hotshot Wildland Crew (says the Internet)
Brush 288
Camp 31
Comms 22, 26, 27, 28, 29
2Charles1 (Patrol Captain)
2Edward 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12
Engineer 325
Field 31
2King 1 & 5 (canine units)
Lookout 03, 41, 50, 51 57, 62, 75, 120 (Palomar), 10, 21, 71, 86, 87 (KCB591 Boucher Hill), 13, 22, 33, 34, 38, 39, 64, 68 (High Point poss KFX215)
Marauders, IA crew from Antelope Valley
Mountaineer arriving at Alpine
OHV2
Patrol 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 31, 33, 34, 41, 42
Prevention 24, 25
Ranger 2
Rec 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 31, 32
Rescue
Trails 21, 25, 32, Volunteer 33
2Tom 2 (LEO Trainee)
Utility 28, 36
Black Eagles, Sequoia NF Tribal Crew/Hotshot Wildland Crew (says the Internet)
Brush 288
Camp 31
Comms 22, 26, 27, 28, 29
2Charles1 (Patrol Captain)
2Edward 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12
Engineer 325
Field 31
2King 1 & 5 (canine units)
Lookout 03, 41, 50, 51 57, 62, 75, 120 (Palomar), 10, 21, 71, 86, 87 (KCB591 Boucher Hill), 13, 22, 33, 34, 38, 39, 64, 68 (High Point poss KFX215)
Marauders, IA crew from Antelope Valley
Mountaineer arriving at Alpine
OHV2
Patrol 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 31, 33, 34, 41, 42
Prevention 24, 25
Ranger 2
Rec 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 31, 32
Rescue
Trails 21, 25, 32, Volunteer 33
2Tom 2 (LEO Trainee)
Utility 28, 36
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Could it be an "image" from around 141 MHz ?
Where abouts are you located?
It's in my sig next to my name
(Orange County, Calif.) Clear view of Angeles, part of SBNF, Cleveland/Santiago and also a ways down the coast. The UHF link output on 406.525 lets me listen to the whole CNF.Unlikely. My Harris radio is very good at not generating internal images. This sort of thing has happened before where some guy in Mexico sets up an unlicensed repeater on what they think is a "quiet" frequency.
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Might you have a Federal Repeater near-by and it is passing the Spanish user traffic ?
NTIA does allow 163.1000 as a Repeater output with 168.3500 as the input. (Analog and P25)
it's in most Federal Code plugs in one of the interop zones
That's a very interesting thought and it would be fun if we had a new Fed repeater show up.
The conversations that I heard seemed to have the cadence or timing of a conversation where the users knew they were going through a repeater. It also has a sort of "roger beep" just before the repeater unkeys. Very short hang time too. Makes it hard to swing my directional antenna around quickly enough
ecps92
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something to think of a Mexican Repeater where their output is the same as your input.That's a very interesting thought and it would be fun if we had a new Fed repeater show up.
I found one years ago that belonged to the Embassay using 469.6250 as the Repeater output with a 462.6250 input
So image me using my GMRS 467 into my LEGAL Repeater, which was then keying up their input to 469.6250 (US Business Band) and
then keying up the local 464.6250 Repeater (What a Mess)
Happy Hunting tho...would love to know the outcome if ever.
BTW this is the NTIA Zone from radios, that I've encountered
| Channel | Name | Comments | RX | RX Tone | TX | TX Tone | Notes |
1 | NTIA W R | 163.1000 | No PL | 168.3500 | No PL | ||
2 | NTIA W RD | 163.1000 | $001 | 168.3500 | $001 | ||
3 | NTIA W1 | 168.3500 | No PL | 168.3500 | No PL | ||
4 | NTIA W1 D | 168.3500 | $001 | 168.3500 | $001 | ||
5 | NTIA W2 | 163.1000 | No PL | 163.1000 | No PL | ||
6 | NTIA W2 D | 163.1000 | $001 | 163.1000 | $001 | ||
7 | NTIA L R | 173.6250 | No PL | 167.1375 | No PL | ||
8 | NTIA L RD | 173.6250 | $001 | 167.1375 | $001 | ||
9 | NTIA L1 | 168.6125 | No PL | 168.6125 | No PL | ||
10 | NTIA L1 D | 168.6125 | $001 | 168.6125 | $001 | ||
11 | NTIA L2 | 163.7125 | No PL | 163.7125 | No PL | ||
12 | NTIA L2 D | 163.7125 | $001 | 163.7125 | $001 | ||
13 | NTIA L3 | 167.1375 | No PL | 167.1375 | No PL | ||
14 | NTIA L3 D | 167.1375 | $001 | 167.1375 | $001 | ||
15 | NTIA L4 | 173.6250 | No PL | 173.6250 | No PL | ||
16 | NTIA L4 D | 173.6250 | $001 | 173.6250 | $001 |
Interesting: More normal sounding Common 2 simplex radio chatter: "Alpha Whiskey Whiskey Papa , Apple Valley helibase".
When the Spanish language folks on the repeater key up the signal has more variability so must be propagation effects and likely at a fair distance from me..
When the Spanish language folks on the repeater key up the signal has more variability so must be propagation effects and likely at a fair distance from me..
Common 2 (163.100) has some sort of helicopter ops bringing in or hauling out loads. I can also hear the ground crew member on his handheld. Can't say which forest they are in just yet.
Edit: Helicopter just ID'ed as 534 and ground crew as 81
Southern California Helicopter 534 is a Type 2 helicopter operated by the U.S. Forest Service and assigned to the Heaps Peak Helitack Crew in the San Bernardino National Forest. This specialized aircraft is primarily deployed for rapid initial attacks and water bucket drops on remote wildfires
I thought I herd the helo pilot mention flames. So maybe I'm hearing ops for one of these two incidents in SBNF:
MTZ/BDU/83A or MTZ/BDC/82A
Edit: Helicopter just ID'ed as 534 and ground crew as 81
Southern California Helicopter 534 is a Type 2 helicopter operated by the U.S. Forest Service and assigned to the Heaps Peak Helitack Crew in the San Bernardino National Forest. This specialized aircraft is primarily deployed for rapid initial attacks and water bucket drops on remote wildfires
I thought I herd the helo pilot mention flames. So maybe I'm hearing ops for one of these two incidents in SBNF:
MTZ/BDU/83A or MTZ/BDC/82A
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