CLMRN (was CSERN)

darkness975

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Like Others, I am using an SDS100 which was working great as far as picking up CT State Police (mainly D,E,F,G, but often other Troops), using a Remtronix 800 antenna (home and Mobile).With the recent switch to TDMA, now deaf for these transmissions. Conventional, DMR and New London/Waterford P25 working fine. Anyone in the SE part of the State (Lymes, Waterford, NL) that can shed some light on how I might adjust settings? As far as equipment, have tried the Shure antenna as mentioned in the Thread - no Joy. Thanks in advance.
I am out of power for the foreseeable future but I am going to have to set up an indoor discone and hope that that does the trick.
 

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I am hearing talk groups 14102 , 14106. Does anyone know what these are?
Last night I heard 14101, 14103 and 14104 which all seemed to be related to a fire in Durham last night. There was also a Wallingford talk group involved which may have been a mutual aid crosspatch.
 

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Last night I heard 14101, 14103 and 14104 which all seemed to be related to a fire in Durham last night. There was also a Wallingford talk group involved which may have been a mutual aid crosspatch.
Jim, Yes those are E.Haddam talkgroups. The first 3 digits give it away. The way you can figure who is using it is subtract 100 from the first 3 digits ( 141-100=41 ). Now look 41 up in the tax code table and there you go. Yes Wallingford pops up a lot in the 65xxx range when a mobile might need a little help in a bad signal area.
001Andover
002Ansonia
003Ashford
004Avon
005Barkhamsted
006Beacon Falls
007Berlin
008Bethany
009Bethel
010Bethlehem
011Bloomfield
012Bolton
013Bozrah
014Branford
015Bridgeport
016Bridgewater
017Bristol
018Brookfield
019Brooklyn
020Burlington
021Canaan
022Canterbury
023Canton
024Chaplin
025Cheshire
026Chester
027Clinton
028Colchester
029Colebrook
030Columbia
031Cornwall
032Coventry
033Cromwell
034Danbury
035Darien
036Deep River
037Derby
038Durham
039Eastford
040East Granby
041East Haddam
042East Hampton
043East Hartford
044East Haven
045East Lyme
046Easton
047East Windsor
048Ellington
049Enfield
050Essex
051Fairfield
052Farmington
053Franklin
054Glastonbury
055Goshen
056Granby
057Greenwich
058Griswold
059Groton
060Guilford
061Haddam
062Hamden
063Hampton
064Hartford
065Hartland
066Harwinton
067Hebron
068Kent
069Killingly
070Killlingworth
071Lebanon
072Ledyard
073Lisbon
074Litchfield
075Lyme
076Madison
077Manchester
078Mansfield
079Marlborough
080Meriden
081Middlebury
082Middlefield
083Middletown
084Milford
085Monroe
086Montville
087Morris
088Naugatuck
089New Britain
090New Canaan
091New Fairfield
092New Hartford
093New Haven
094Newington
095New London
096New Milford
097Newtown
098Norfolk
099North Branford
100North Canaan
101North Haven
102North Stonington
103Norwalk
104Norwich
105Old Lyme
106Old Saybrook
107Orange
108Oxford
109Plainfield
110Plainville
111Plymouth
112Pomfret
113Portland
114Preston
115Prospect
116Putnam
117Redding
118Ridgefield
119Rocky Hill
120Roxbury
121Salem
122Salisbury
123Scotland
124Seymour
125Sharon
126Shelton
127Sherman
128Simsbury
129Somers
130Southbury
131Southington
132South Windsor
133Sprague
134Stafford
135Stamford
136Sterling
137Stonington
138Stratford
139Suffield
140Thomaston
141Thompson
142Tolland
143Torrington
144Trumbull
145Union
146Vernon
147Voluntown
148Wallingford
149Warren
150Washington
151Waterbury
152Waterford
153Watertown
154Westbrook
155West hartford
156West Haven
157Weston
158Westport
159Wethersfield
160Willington
161Wilton
162Winchester
163Windham
164Windsor
165Windsor Locks
166Wolcott
167Woodbridge
168Woodbury
169Woodstock
170Mashantucket
 

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Did someone actually called to see what was up with the HP-2 ?
As has been discussed With you numerous times. The hp-2 although P2 capable just like a 325 P2 or a x36 is a non SDR chip radio. It could work in some locations and not in others like it didn't work in your location. There's nothing for Uniden to say, they knew this 8 years ago and that is why they developed the SDS series radios.
 

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SEE THIS POST.

CLMRN (was CSERN) Formula

Make note of the formula for the town tax code, etc for future "Unknown" talk groups

001 Andover

002 Ansonia

003 Ashford

004 Avon

005 Barkhamsted

006 Beacon Falls

007 Berlin

008 Bethany

009 Bethel

010 Bethlehem

011 Bloomfield

012 Bolton

013 Bozrah

014 Branford

015 Bridgeport

016 Bridgewater

017 Bristol

018 Brookfield

019 Brooklyn

020 Burlington

021 Canaan

022 Canterbury

023 Canton

024 Chaplin

025 Cheshire

026 Chester

027 Clinton

028 Colchester

029 Colebrook

030 Columbia

031 Cornwall

032 Coventry

033 Cromwell

034 Danbury

035 Darien

036 Deep River

037 Derby

038 Durham

039 Eastford

040 East Granby

041 East Haddam

042 East Hampton

043 East Hartford

044 East Haven

045 East Lyme

046 Easton

047 East Windsor

048 Ellington

049 Enfield

050 Essex

051 Fairfield

052 Farmington

053 Franklin

054 Glastonbury

055 Goshen

056 Granby

057 Greenwich

058 Griswold

059 Groton

060 Guilford

061 Haddam

062 Hamden

063 Hampton

064 Hartford

065 Hartland

066 Harwinton

067 Hebron

068 Kent

069 Killingly

070 Killlingworth

071 Lebanon

072 Ledyard

073 Lisbon

074 Litchfield

075 Lyme

076 Madison

077 Manchester

078 Mansfield

079 Marlborough

080 Meriden

081 Middlebury

082 Middlefield

083 Middletown

084 Milford

085 Monroe

086 Montville

087 Morris

088 Naugatuck

089 New Britain

090 New Canaan

091 New Fairfield

092 New Hartford

093 New Haven

094 Newington

095 New London

096 New Milford

097 Newtown

098 Norfolk

099 North Branford

100 North Canaan

101 North Haven

102 North Stonington

103 Norwalk

104 Norwich

105 Old Lyme

106 Old Saybrook

107 Orange

108 Oxford

109 Plainfield

110 Plainville

111 Plymouth

112 Pomfret

113 Portland

114 Preston

115 Prospect

116 Putnam

117 Redding

118 Ridgefield

119 Rocky Hill

120 Roxbury

121 Salem

122 Salisbury

123 Scotland

124 Seymour

125 Sharon

126 Shelton

127 Sherman

128 Simsbury

129 Somers

130 Southbury

131 Southington

132 South Windsor

133 Sprague

134 Stafford

135 Stamford

136 Sterling

137 Stonington

138 Stratford

139 Suffield

140 Thomaston

141 Thompson

142 Tolland

143 Torrington

144 Trumbull

145 Union

146 Vernon

147 Voluntown

148 Wallingford

149 Warren

150 Washington

151 Waterbury

152 Waterford

153 Watertown

154 Westbrook

155 West hartford

156 West Haven

157 Weston

158 Westport

159 Wethersfield

160 Willington

161 Wilton

162 Winchester

163 Windham

164 Windsor

165 Windsor Locks

166 Wolcott

167 Woodbridge

168 Woodbury

169 Woodstock
170 Mashantucket
That was a lot of work for you doc but very helpful.
 

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As has been discussed With you numerous times. The hp-2 although P2 capable just like a 325 P2 or a x36 is a non SDR chip radio. It could work in some locations and not in others like it didn't work in your location. There's nothing for Uniden to say, they knew this 8 years ago and that is why they developed the SDS series radios.
my HP2 works mostly with Bloomfield I get about 90-95 of the transmissions. I have compared it to my SDR Dongle with op-25. I believe to be getting all my transmissions on that. My SDS 100 and 200 work also but only if it happens to be scanning Site 028 at the time. I get a very good signal so I have come to the conclusion after tweaking and moving radios around this is the best it will be but it does work.

Alec
 

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I am out of power for the foreseeable future but I am going to have to set up an indoor discone and hope that that does the trick.
I can report using SDR Trunk with two RTL-SDR's is picking up and recording more audio than the SDS200 locked on the same control channel just recording TG's for Troop A and Troop L. I'm going to switch my main CSP recordings for CLMRN to those and leave the Uniden's to scan conventional from now on. It is 100% a firmware issue with the SDS series, perhaps related to problems with TDMA talk groups being harder for it to decode if there's any type of distortion. But with -90db, 4 bars, it should be a VERY clean signal... My guess Simulcast Distortion is messing with me.

I doubt we will ever see any updates for the SDS or any Uniden scanners firmware wise anytime soon, let alone ever.
 

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I can report using SDR Trunk with two RTL-SDR's is picking up and recording more audio than the SDS200 locked on the same control channel just recording TG's for Troop A and Troop L. I'm going to switch my main CSP recordings for CLMRN to those and leave the Uniden's to scan conventional from now on. It is 100% a firmware issue with the SDS series, perhaps related to problems with TDMA talk groups being harder for it to decode if there's any type of distortion. But with -90db, 4 bars, it should be a VERY clean signal... My guess Simulcast Distortion is messing with me.

I doubt we will ever see any updates for the SDS or any Uniden scanners firmware wise anytime soon, let alone ever.
But isnt the sds series specifically designed to handle simulcast distortion ?
 

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But isnt the sds series specifically designed to handle simulcast distortion ?
That was the claim. Reality seems to have brought us back to Earth.
Agreed. I think they can be tweaked further, as clearly these $20 RTL-SDR and some open source software can decode the signals just fine with noise filters and adjustments... but I think development is just stalled.

It's amazing what you can do with $100 worth of cheap SDR's and some cheap antennas using op25 and/or SDR-Trunk these days with continually updated software.
 

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On the far side of my apartment all of the scanners are doing better, including the SDS on CLMRN with their current antennas. Obviously they are missing a lot still but its hopeful. I will be experimenting with a couple of different antennas to see if it helps.

I cant speak for anyone else but for me it's a reception issue in my particular area. The same scanners with the same settings decode CLMRN a thousand times better just by bringing them a quarter mile up the road.
 

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I drove through CT twice on Wednesday on a trip down and back to NJ. I listened to CLMRN and noticed that the audio on Phase 2 groups was mostly muted compared to other P25 systems still using Phase 1. My solution was to set the volume offset on my SDS200. I don't know when I'll be down that way again, but will report if no one does in the meantime.

I found that if I set the audio at a level where I could hear Phase 2 well, analog traffic was extremely loud. I noticed that mainly on the various Med 10 channels I have programmed in.
 

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I drove through CT twice on Wednesday on a trip down and back to NJ. I listened to CLMRN and noticed that the audio on Phase 2 groups was mostly muted compared to other P25 systems still using Phase 1. My solution was to set the volume offset on my SDS200. I don't know when I'll be down that way again, but will report if no one does in the meantime.

I found that if I set the audio at a level where I could hear Phase 2 well, analog traffic was extremely loud. I noticed that mainly on the various Med 10 channels I have programmed in.
That doesn't have any impact on reception of the system though.

Even among the systems there are discrepancies. Troop L is quieter than Troop A for example.
 
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I just heard Troop D for the first time since the switch to P2, so maybe they are re-configuring some of the sites for better coverage.

I receive every other troop/TG over the course of the day. Signal is weaker though.

I'm in Middletown near HQ.
 

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I have switched to Troop L Simulcast 100% of the time, I am in Avon and H is a weak weak signal, so L is full strength now, so yes I suspect some shifting things around occured... Doc, thoughts?
 
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