CLMRN (was CSERN)

[darkness975]

Like Others, I am using an SDS100 which was working great as far as picking up CT State Police (mainly D,E,F,G, but often other Troops), using a Remtronix 800 antenna (home and Mobile).With the recent switch to TDMA, now deaf for these transmissions. Conventional, DMR and New London/Waterford P25 working fine. Anyone in the SE part of the State (Lymes, Waterford, NL) that can shed some light on how I might adjust settings? As far as equipment, have tried the Shure antenna as mentioned in the Thread - no Joy. Thanks in advance.

I am out of power for the foreseeable future but I am going to have to set up an indoor discone and hope that that does the trick.

 

[PhillyPhoto]

That is the date you updated the Sentinal database, it's on the lower left. Scannermaster got the radio on Tuesday at about 1:30 pm.

@scottb908 was asking about the DB date, that's why I was asking what it showed for him.

 

[hotbob62]

has anyone spoken with uniden or scanmaster

Did someone actually called to see what was up with the HP-2 ?

 

[N1GTL]

I am hearing talk groups 14102 , 14106. Does anyone know what these are?

Last night I heard 14101, 14103 and 14104 which all seemed to be related to a fire in Durham last night. There was also a Wallingford talk group involved which may have been a mutual aid crosspatch.

 

[pro106import]

Last night I heard 14101, 14103 and 14104 which all seemed to be related to a fire in Durham last night. There was also a Wallingford talk group involved which may have been a mutual aid crosspatch.

Jim, Yes those are E.Haddam talkgroups. The first 3 digits give it away. The way you can figure who is using it is subtract 100 from the first 3 digits ( 141-100=41 ). Now look 41 up in the tax code table and there you go. Yes Wallingford pops up a lot in the 65xxx range when a mobile might need a little help in a bad signal area.

001	Andover
002	Ansonia
003	Ashford
004	Avon
005	Barkhamsted
006	Beacon Falls
007	Berlin
008	Bethany
009	Bethel
010	Bethlehem
011	Bloomfield
012	Bolton
013	Bozrah
014	Branford
015	Bridgeport
016	Bridgewater
017	Bristol
018	Brookfield
019	Brooklyn
020	Burlington
021	Canaan
022	Canterbury
023	Canton
024	Chaplin
025	Cheshire
026	Chester
027	Clinton
028	Colchester
029	Colebrook
030	Columbia
031	Cornwall
032	Coventry
033	Cromwell
034	Danbury
035	Darien
036	Deep River
037	Derby
038	Durham
039	Eastford
040	East Granby
041	East Haddam
042	East Hampton
043	East Hartford
044	East Haven
045	East Lyme
046	Easton
047	East Windsor
048	Ellington
049	Enfield
050	Essex
051	Fairfield
052	Farmington
053	Franklin
054	Glastonbury
055	Goshen
056	Granby
057	Greenwich
058	Griswold
059	Groton
060	Guilford
061	Haddam
062	Hamden
063	Hampton
064	Hartford
065	Hartland
066	Harwinton
067	Hebron
068	Kent
069	Killingly
070	Killlingworth
071	Lebanon
072	Ledyard
073	Lisbon
074	Litchfield
075	Lyme
076	Madison
077	Manchester
078	Mansfield
079	Marlborough
080	Meriden
081	Middlebury
082	Middlefield
083	Middletown
084	Milford
085	Monroe
086	Montville
087	Morris
088	Naugatuck
089	New Britain
090	New Canaan
091	New Fairfield
092	New Hartford
093	New Haven
094	Newington
095	New London
096	New Milford
097	Newtown
098	Norfolk
099	North Branford
100	North Canaan
101	North Haven
102	North Stonington
103	Norwalk
104	Norwich
105	Old Lyme
106	Old Saybrook
107	Orange
108	Oxford
109	Plainfield
110	Plainville
111	Plymouth
112	Pomfret
113	Portland
114	Preston
115	Prospect
116	Putnam
117	Redding
118	Ridgefield
119	Rocky Hill
120	Roxbury
121	Salem
122	Salisbury
123	Scotland
124	Seymour
125	Sharon
126	Shelton
127	Sherman
128	Simsbury
129	Somers
130	Southbury
131	Southington
132	South Windsor
133	Sprague
134	Stafford
135	Stamford
136	Sterling
137	Stonington
138	Stratford
139	Suffield
140	Thomaston
141	Thompson
142	Tolland
143	Torrington
144	Trumbull
145	Union
146	Vernon
147	Voluntown
148	Wallingford
149	Warren
150	Washington
151	Waterbury
152	Waterford
153	Watertown
154	Westbrook
155	West hartford
156	West Haven
157	Weston
158	Westport
159	Wethersfield
160	Willington
161	Wilton
162	Winchester
163	Windham
164	Windsor
165	Windsor Locks
166	Wolcott
167	Woodbridge
168	Woodbury
169	Woodstock
170	Mashantucket

 

[trentbob]

Did someone actually called to see what was up with the HP-2 ?

As has been discussed With you numerous times. The hp-2 although P2 capable just like a 325 P2 or a x36 is a non SDR chip radio. It could work in some locations and not in others like it didn't work in your location. There's nothing for Uniden to say, they knew this 8 years ago and that is why they developed the SDS series radios.

 

[trentbob]

SEE THIS POST.

CLMRN (was CSERN) Formula

Make note of the formula for the town tax code, etc for future "Unknown" talk groups

001 Andover

002 Ansonia

003 Ashford

004 Avon

005 Barkhamsted

006 Beacon Falls

007 Berlin

008 Bethany

009 Bethel

010 Bethlehem

011 Bloomfield

012 Bolton

013 Bozrah

014 Branford

015 Bridgeport

016 Bridgewater

017 Bristol

018 Brookfield

019 Brooklyn

020 Burlington

021 Canaan

022 Canterbury

023 Canton

024 Chaplin

025 Cheshire

026 Chester

027 Clinton

028 Colchester

029 Colebrook

030 Columbia

031 Cornwall

032 Coventry

033 Cromwell

034 Danbury

035 Darien

036 Deep River

037 Derby

038 Durham

039 Eastford

040 East Granby

041 East Haddam

042 East Hampton

043 East Hartford

044 East Haven

045 East Lyme

046 Easton

047 East Windsor

048 Ellington

049 Enfield

050 Essex

051 Fairfield

052 Farmington

053 Franklin

054 Glastonbury

055 Goshen

056 Granby

057 Greenwich

058 Griswold

059 Groton

060 Guilford

061 Haddam

062 Hamden

063 Hampton

064 Hartford

065 Hartland

066 Harwinton

067 Hebron

068 Kent

069 Killingly

070 Killlingworth

071 Lebanon

072 Ledyard

073 Lisbon

074 Litchfield

075 Lyme

076 Madison

077 Manchester

078 Mansfield

079 Marlborough

080 Meriden

081 Middlebury

082 Middlefield

083 Middletown

084 Milford

085 Monroe

086 Montville

087 Morris

088 Naugatuck

089 New Britain

090 New Canaan

091 New Fairfield

092 New Hartford

093 New Haven

094 Newington

095 New London

096 New Milford

097 Newtown

098 Norfolk

099 North Branford

100 North Canaan

101 North Haven

102 North Stonington

103 Norwalk

104 Norwich

105 Old Lyme

106 Old Saybrook

107 Orange

108 Oxford

109 Plainfield

110 Plainville

111 Plymouth

112 Pomfret

113 Portland

114 Preston

115 Prospect

116 Putnam

117 Redding

118 Ridgefield

119 Rocky Hill

120 Roxbury

121 Salem

122 Salisbury

123 Scotland

124 Seymour

125 Sharon

126 Shelton

127 Sherman

128 Simsbury

129 Somers

130 Southbury

131 Southington

132 South Windsor

133 Sprague

134 Stafford

135 Stamford

136 Sterling

137 Stonington

138 Stratford

139 Suffield

140 Thomaston

141 Thompson

142 Tolland

143 Torrington

144 Trumbull

145 Union

146 Vernon

147 Voluntown

148 Wallingford

149 Warren

150 Washington

151 Waterbury

152 Waterford

153 Watertown

154 Westbrook

155 West hartford

156 West Haven

157 Weston

158 Westport

159 Wethersfield

160 Willington

161 Wilton

162 Winchester

163 Windham

164 Windsor

165 Windsor Locks

166 Wolcott

167 Woodbridge

168 Woodbury

169 Woodstock
170 Mashantucket

That was a lot of work for you doc but very helpful.

 

[doctordialtone]

I have to give the credit for this to @cg .

 

[awasser1]

As has been discussed With you numerous times. The hp-2 although P2 capable just like a 325 P2 or a x36 is a non SDR chip radio. It could work in some locations and not in others like it didn't work in your location. There's nothing for Uniden to say, they knew this 8 years ago and that is why they developed the SDS series radios.

my HP2 works mostly with Bloomfield I get about 90-95 of the transmissions. I have compared it to my SDR Dongle with op-25. I believe to be getting all my transmissions on that. My SDS 100 and 200 work also but only if it happens to be scanning Site 028 at the time. I get a very good signal so I have come to the conclusion after tweaking and moving radios around this is the best it will be but it does work.

Alec

 

[WoodburyMan]

I am out of power for the foreseeable future but I am going to have to set up an indoor discone and hope that that does the trick.

I can report using SDR Trunk with two RTL-SDR's is picking up and recording more audio than the SDS200 locked on the same control channel just recording TG's for Troop A and Troop L. I'm going to switch my main CSP recordings for CLMRN to those and leave the Uniden's to scan conventional from now on. It is 100% a firmware issue with the SDS series, perhaps related to problems with TDMA talk groups being harder for it to decode if there's any type of distortion. But with -90db, 4 bars, it should be a VERY clean signal... My guess Simulcast Distortion is messing with me.

I doubt we will ever see any updates for the SDS or any Uniden scanners firmware wise anytime soon, let alone ever.

 

[darkness975]

I can report using SDR Trunk with two RTL-SDR's is picking up and recording more audio than the SDS200 locked on the same control channel just recording TG's for Troop A and Troop L. I'm going to switch my main CSP recordings for CLMRN to those and leave the Uniden's to scan conventional from now on. It is 100% a firmware issue with the SDS series, perhaps related to problems with TDMA talk groups being harder for it to decode if there's any type of distortion. But with -90db, 4 bars, it should be a VERY clean signal... My guess Simulcast Distortion is messing with me.

I doubt we will ever see any updates for the SDS or any Uniden scanners firmware wise anytime soon, let alone ever.

But isnt the sds series specifically designed to handle simulcast distortion ?

 

[PhillyPhoto]

But isnt the sds series specifically designed to handle simulcast distortion ?

That was the claim. Reality seems to have brought us back to Earth.

 

[WoodburyMan]

But isnt the sds series specifically designed to handle simulcast distortion ?

That was the claim. Reality seems to have brought us back to Earth.

Agreed. I think they can be tweaked further, as clearly these $20 RTL-SDR and some open source software can decode the signals just fine with noise filters and adjustments... but I think development is just stalled.

It's amazing what you can do with $100 worth of cheap SDR's and some cheap antennas using op25 and/or SDR-Trunk these days with continually updated software.

 

[darkness975]

On the far side of my apartment all of the scanners are doing better, including the SDS on CLMRN with their current antennas. Obviously they are missing a lot still but its hopeful. I will be experimenting with a couple of different antennas to see if it helps.

I cant speak for anyone else but for me it's a reception issue in my particular area. The same scanners with the same settings decode CLMRN a thousand times better just by bringing them a quarter mile up the road.

 

[Cheeseburgers]

antenna is headed your way, excited to see how it performs by you.

 

[garys]

I drove through CT twice on Wednesday on a trip down and back to NJ. I listened to CLMRN and noticed that the audio on Phase 2 groups was mostly muted compared to other P25 systems still using Phase 1. My solution was to set the volume offset on my SDS200. I don't know when I'll be down that way again, but will report if no one does in the meantime.

I found that if I set the audio at a level where I could hear Phase 2 well, analog traffic was extremely loud. I noticed that mainly on the various Med 10 channels I have programmed in.

 

[darkness975]

I drove through CT twice on Wednesday on a trip down and back to NJ. I listened to CLMRN and noticed that the audio on Phase 2 groups was mostly muted compared to other P25 systems still using Phase 1. My solution was to set the volume offset on my SDS200. I don't know when I'll be down that way again, but will report if no one does in the meantime.

I found that if I set the audio at a level where I could hear Phase 2 well, analog traffic was extremely loud. I noticed that mainly on the various Med 10 channels I have programmed in.

That doesn't have any impact on reception of the system though.

Even among the systems there are discrepancies. Troop L is quieter than Troop A for example.

 

[doctordialtone]

I just heard Troop D for the first time since the switch to P2, so maybe they are re-configuring some of the sites for better coverage.

I receive every other troop/TG over the course of the day. Signal is weaker though.

I'm in Middletown near HQ.

 

[Cheeseburgers]

I have switched to Troop L Simulcast 100% of the time, I am in Avon and H is a weak weak signal, so L is full strength now, so yes I suspect some shifting things around occured... Doc, thoughts?

 

[doctordialtone]

some shifting things around occured.

Yep, I'm hearing more traffic over the past week. Must be some reason.