Coast Guard in Nationwide Frequencies

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With respect to the Coast Guard listing in "Nationwide Frequencies", wouldn't it be more appropriate to list the Coast Guard in the "Military" section, instead of the "Federal" section? They are, after all, most decidedly a branch of the military.
 

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Yes and No as they also fall under Homeland Security

It's always been a topic of discussion, since 95% of OUR monitoring of the USCG is Local Ops vs [Foreign - Military Ops] Gulf War etc they do mostly fall under Federal than Military [YMMV]

With respect to the Coast Guard listing in "Nationwide Frequencies", wouldn't it be more appropriate to list the Coast Guard in the "Military" section, instead of the "Federal" section? They are, after all, most decidedly a branch of the military.
 

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During peacetime, the Coast Guard is under Homeland Security - it used to be under the Department of Transportation - and is not considered a branch of the military. That is why the USCG can perform traditional law enforcement duties without violating the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 as long as they have not been transferred to the Department of the Navy by a Presidential Order
 

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The United States Coast Guard is one of the five branches of our Armed Forces during war and peace. One of the 11 Missions that the Coast Guard performs every day is Defense Readiness. The Coast Guard is a unique branch of the Military in that it is multimission (11 mission total) which includes Marirme Law Enforcement. The Coast Guard does operate under the Department of Home Land Security, and does not need to operate under Department Of Defense to be considered part of our Military. Right now operating under the Departmnet of Homeland Security the Coast Guard has permenent duty Station in the Persion Gulf. I do agree with ECPS92, the frequncies that most monitor deals with local SAR and Law Enforcement and not the Military missions of the Coast Guard, but the United States Coast Guard IS a branch of the Military and performs its duties as a branch of the Military every day amongst many other missions.
 

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This is from the US Coast Guard Offical Web page, wich is also a .mil page:

"The legal basis for the Coast Guard is Title 14 of the United States Code, which states: "The Coast Guard as established January 28, 1915, shall be a military service and a branch of the armed forces of the United States at all times." Upon the declaration of war or when the President directs, the Coast Guard operates under the authority of the Department of the Navy.

As members of a military service, Guardians on active duty and in the Reserve are subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice and receive the same pay and allowances as members of the same pay grades in the other four armed services."
 

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With respect to the Coast Guard listing in "Nationwide Frequencies", wouldn't it be more appropriate to list the Coast Guard in the "Military" section, instead of the "Federal" section? They are, after all, most decidedly a branch of the military.
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...why the USCG can perform traditional law enforcement duties without violating the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 ...
The Posse Comitatus Act is only applicable to the Army and, since the Air Force was formed from the Army, the Air Force. It is not applicable to the Navy or Marines and certainly not the Coast Guard.
 

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The Posse Comitatus Act is only applicable to the Army and, since the Air Force was formed from the Army, the Air Force. It is not applicable to the Navy or Marines and certainly not the Coast Guard.
This is true, DOD Directive 5525.5 covers the use of Military for law enforcement. In general it is prohibited, with a list of exception. I know the Navy does participate in Law Enforcement, but to a limited degree. Any Boarding Team from a Navy Vessel has to have a Coast Guard Boarding Officer to carry out Law Enforcement duties. (Naval vessels are assigned a CG Law Enforcement detachment team) The Navy is not allowed to carry out LE on it's own.
The Coast Guard is still considered a branch of the Military.
 
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