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There is no Ontario Coast Guard. The Canadian Coast Guard the last time I checked don't use 800 MHz yet. There are Coast Guard Auxiliary Units that may use 800 MHz or use those channels used by the parent unit.

For example COMRA, City of Oshawa Rescue Auxiliary use the same 800 MHz radios that the Oshawa Fire and Durham Regional Police use.

Toronto Marine Rescue will use the same 800 MHz radios as the Toronto Police.

But all marine and rescue communications to the RCC, must be on the regular maritime channels or via telephone.
 

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yes sorry the Canadian CG....don't know where my head was........ I was trying to program them into my older realistic pro60
 

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I knew that is what you meant.. :)

As long as you have the following channels programmed you should be good to go for the summer activities..

06 156.300 Intership - Safety
16 156.800 Internat. Distress/Safety/Calling
21A 157.050 A US Coast Guard - authorized stations
22A 157.100 CA USCG/CCG
61A 156.075 C Intership-S/S - Can. Coast Guard Priv.
62A 156.125 C Intership-S/S - Can. Coast Guard Priv.
63A 156.175 C Intership-Ship/shore - comm.
65A 156.275 CA Port Operation (CCG Private)
81A 157.075 A Port Operation (USCG)(CCG anti-pollution)
82A 157.125 A Port Operation (USCG)(CCG)

157.200, 157.300, 157.400 are sometimes used by USCG in Canadian waters.

For VTM:

11 156.550 Vessel Traffic Management
12 156.600 Vessel Traffic Management
13 156.650 Bridge to bridge - 1 watt - Safety of Nav.
14 156.700 Vessel Traffic Management
16 156.800 Internat. Distress/Safety/Calling
17 156.850 Pilotage - vessel docking/manoeuvers

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ScannerDesk,
A quick question on your list. I notice you list for example "61A 156.075 C Intership-S/S-Canadian CG Private." My question is the designator 61A usually refers to 61 A -US and you have listed 156.075 C as which usually refers to Canadian. So are you referring to 61 Alpha- US or 61 Charlie - Canadian. As there is Alpha, Charlie and India suffix (US-Canadian-International band plans)
 

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In the above, the A after the channel number means simplex, B means transmit only (Broadcast) and no designation means duplex.

The letter after the frequency is A is for American only usage, and C is for Canadian usage.
But in reality, for Coast Guard operations, it usually is shared ops even if it is listed as A or C.

For example:

22A 157.100 CA USCG/CCG

22A means 22 simplex (Mobile only). 157.100 CA means Canadian and American shared usage.

21A 157.050 A US Coast Guard - authorized stations

Again 21A is simplex and 157.050 A is for American use. In this case 21A is a US government assignment for USCG use only. But I have heard DEA and CCG on that channel as well last summer.

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ScannerDesk said:
For example COMRA, City of Oshawa Rescue Auxiliary use the same 800 MHz radios that the Oshawa Fire and Durham Regional Police use.
Just a quick correction, last time i checked Durham Regional Police were not using 800Mhz radios, i was pretty sure they were using a cell service through Telus
 

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MetalCarnage said:
ScannerDesk said:
For example COMRA, City of Oshawa Rescue Auxiliary use the same 800 MHz radios that the Oshawa Fire and Durham Regional Police use.
Just a quick correction, last time i checked Durham Regional Police were not using 800Mhz radios, i was pretty sure they were using a cell service through Telus
It's actually the Telus Mike service which are IDEN and utilize the 800Mhz band and not a cell service but called something else but I just can't remember what it's called.

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mbstone99 said:
MetalCarnage said:
ScannerDesk said:
For example COMRA, City of Oshawa Rescue Auxiliary use the same 800 MHz radios that the Oshawa Fire and Durham Regional Police use.


It's actually the Telus Mike service which are IDEN and utilize the 800Mhz band and not a cell service but called something else but I just can't remember what it's called.

Matt
I believe it's referred to as ESMR (Enhanced Special Mobile Radio).

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mbstone99 said:
MetalCarnage said:
ScannerDesk said:
For example COMRA, City of Oshawa Rescue Auxiliary use the same 800 MHz radios that the Oshawa Fire and Durham Regional Police use.


It's actually the Telus Mike service which are IDEN and utilize the 800Mhz band and not a cell service but called something else but I just can't remember what it's called.

Matt
Is it not using pre-existing Telus Cellular infrastructure? I was pretty sure it was. That makes it closer to cellular service then a two-way conventional radio in my books
 

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Durham police indeed uses Telus Mike on r750 portables. However, that is only police. Fire is on Motorola trunked 800.
 

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MetalCarnage said:
mbstone99 said:
MetalCarnage said:
Is it not using pre-existing Telus Cellular infrastructure? I was pretty sure it was. That makes it closer to cellular service then a two-way conventional radio in my books
That's a really good question, one that I never got a good answer to. Are they using the
public Telus iDEN network, or a private iDEN network that may be in the 866-869MHz
range? If the latter is true that would make in closer to a two-way radio network.

Dave
 

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MetalCarnage said:
Is it not using pre-existing Telus Cellular infrastructure? I was pretty sure it was. That makes it closer to cellular service then a two-way conventional radio in my books
In some cases they do share the same shelter, power and tower but that's about it.

Different Over-The-Air interface, different base stations, different frequency band, quite likely different antennas, different base station controllers, etc, etc, etc.

A lot of MIKE sites do not have any Telus Cellular equipment since they were previously Clearnet sites.

The proper term is as Dave H. suggested, ESMR.

It's basically trunking with telephone interconnect capability. Much closer to SMR then cellular.
 

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I was listening to Prescott Coast Guard this evening on a SAR (cha 24)...though i was only hearing one side (Coast Guard) side of the conversations from Toronto. Can anyone tell me why?!

As well, does anyone know what freq Coast Guard helicopters use in Canada...or is it a hybrid?
 
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Because channels 24, 26, 27 and 28 are duplex channels - you will need to listen to both the Ship and Shore frequencies in order to hear both sides. The Ship frequency is the 157MHz and the Shore (Coast Guard) is the 161MHz. I don't have my list handy so I don't have the specific frequencies.
 

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24 157.200 161.800
84 157.225 161.825
25 157.250 161.850
85 157.275 161.875
26 157.300 161.900
86 157.325 161.925
27 157.350 161.950
28 157.400 162.000
 

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Because channels 24, 26, 27 and 28 are duplex channels - you will need to listen to both the Ship and Shore frequencies in order to hear both sides. The Ship frequency is the 157MHz and the Shore (Coast Guard) is the 161MHz. I don't have my list handy so I don't have the specific frequencies.

The BCT15 should have all the freq programmed into the "Marine" "service search". I'm wondering if its a distance issue...close enough to pick-up only one side of the conversation.
 
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