Colorado state lawmaker wants Capitol to address police departments' encrypted scanners (again)
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Yeah, I don't think this is going to turn out any different than previous efforts.
What concerns me about this latest effort is that the argument Representative Herod is using is only going to solidify the stance against unencrypted anything. Channels for tactical operations, building & event security, clearances, and "car to car" are best left encrypted (or made so if not already). In the event of litigation/investigation recordings should be made available to legal counsel.
The case for unencrypting the dispatch channel is the one that should be made.
What concerns me about this latest effort is that the argument Representative Herod is using is only going to solidify the stance against unencrypted anything. Channels for tactical operations, building & event security, clearances, and "car to car" are best left encrypted (or made so if not already). In the event of litigation/investigation recordings should be made available to legal counsel.
The case for unencrypting the dispatch channel is the one that should be made.
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The hobby is totally ruined for us in Colorado.
I'd sure like to know where I can get an encrypted scanner
All it takes is a little ingenuity. When we were kids and wanted to run encryption on our tin cans a string setup, we'd tie a knot in the string. Worked every time!
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My thoughts exactly when I read the article headline. LOL.
Me too! My local PD (Nashua NH) flipped the E switch on their 800MHz P25 trunked system earlier this year. The FD and public works are in the clear but no more listening to the PD at all.I'd sure like to know where I can get an encrypted scanner
It represents some collateral damage but not the end of the hobby at all. There is still plenty of stuff to listen to.
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I now find out how busy rtd is lol
Mick
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I read this somewhere: I've long been struck by the inconsistency of departments who talk about being community oriented and transparent, while encrypting all their radio traffic.
With the recent memories of riots & looting in the streets it seems unlikely that any PD that's currently encrypted could be persuaded to go back to clear.
And in a related note- anybody know what freqs Antifa uses during their peaceful activities? I've heard that they use two-way radios but nothing more specific.
And in a related note- anybody know what freqs Antifa uses during their peaceful activities? I've heard that they use two-way radios but nothing more specific.
I glean quite a bit of useful information on what's going on by listening to just Fire and AMR/EMS here in the springs. Got Douglas county Fire and South metro running on the other radios.
CSPD/EPSO are programmed in slot 1 of my G4 and programmed in my favorites on my SDS100 & 200. Neither are encrypted but I often I just flip the G4 dial to slot 3 "CSFD, ELPASO FIRE and AMR" and get all the info I need to know on what's happening in my local. SDS's set to the Douglas South Simulcast tower to monitor State, DCFD and South Metro fire.
Im preparing myself, by just listening mostly to State, Fire and EMS here in the springs, for the likely event that CSPD and EPSO encrypt in the future. That way it's not such a let down when it ultimatly happens.
CSPD/EPSO are programmed in slot 1 of my G4 and programmed in my favorites on my SDS100 & 200. Neither are encrypted but I often I just flip the G4 dial to slot 3 "CSFD, ELPASO FIRE and AMR" and get all the info I need to know on what's happening in my local. SDS's set to the Douglas South Simulcast tower to monitor State, DCFD and South Metro fire.
Im preparing myself, by just listening mostly to State, Fire and EMS here in the springs, for the likely event that CSPD and EPSO encrypt in the future. That way it's not such a let down when it ultimatly happens.
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Family Radio Service (FRS) frequencies and FRS radios with GMRS frequencies? Walmart and Target carry several FRS/GMRS capable radios.
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Yes. That's possible. But they could also be using Baofengs on some random (to us) channel since they seem to be somewhat tech saavy.
KD0DUJ
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I am a ham radio operator and I rely on hearing public safety for any critical incidents to let other hams know to avoid those areas when something major happens like an amber alert , police activity, Structure fires, and Traffic accidents
I too have benefited from using scanning public service frequencies to avoid traffic problems, riots (last summer), etc. Given that many of the state capitals as well as D.C. are worked up over potential conflict and considering that the FCC recently posted a letter regarding criminal use of ham radios Amateur & Personal Radio Users Reminded Not to Use Radios in Crimes I don''t expect much in the way of sympathy from any government entity regarding scanner or radio use.
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If everything on the system in question is encrypted, how would they know if some outsiders started using the system with their personal encrypted radios? Maybe even committing crimes in the process? I'm not advocating this but it would be interesting to see how the system owners would deal with it.
Better remind them. Maybe they'll listen to the government. Amateur & Personal Radio Users Reminded Not to Use Radios in Crimes
Apparently, they were using ZELLO, rather than radios, according to ZELLO....
Well, that would be a good bit of irony, wouldn't it? But, would this be possible? I was under the impression, perhaps wrongly so, that a system administrator could control what radios associate with said system.
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If its a trunked system then rouge radios could be zapped off the system, if its conventional probably not. Back in the 80's or 90s I heard a Sherriff's system not far from me in Orange County, CA had a number of rouge users that would pirate with DES equipped radios, so apparently its been done before.
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