Community EMS on Novi FD?

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Jimmy252

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i dont usually listen to Novi PD/FD, but today i was out there listening, and i heard over the fire frequency that "Alpha 722 is out to providence."

I know Alpha 722 is a Community rig on the Oakland County System, but why are they on Novi's Channel?
I also heard Alpha 701 talk.

And it's only with Novi, Community serves Farmington Hills as well and ive never heard them on FHFD's channel.
 

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They've been doing this for about a month or six weeks now. Not sure exactly why; perhaps they've got some kind of partnership (similar to the Star EMS/Auburn Hills Fire deal) going?

Back in the olden days, when CEMS ran with Rochester Hills, their rig(s) out there all carried RHFD pagers. It was nothing to hear "Community 775, contact your dispatch) on their freq a few times a day.
 

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It just simply improves communications between the FD and ambulance. No need for relay between dispatch centers.
DMCE's casino car is dispatched by DFDEMS
HealthLink's Romulus can and a FD miniter in our station to improve response times, and we are getting a RFD VHF radio also.
 

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Chris correct me if I am wrong... but Star EMS helps AHFD by providing 3 basic transporting rigs (1 for each station) and 1 medic to man the Alpha rig at Station 2 (Alpha 2). If Auburn Hills gets real busy the can then call Star EMS for extra Alpha rigs or use the Mutual Aid agreement with surrounding dept (Rochester Hills or Oakland Twp). It is a real neat system and seems to work well. AHFD has been doing this for a while all the way back to when AMR used to be in the area.

As far as the CEMS radio traffic, could be an accidental oops (picked up the wrong mic or they could be using Novi dispatch times to help fill out the run sheets.
 

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Chris correct me if I am wrong... but Star EMS helps AHFD by providing 3 basic transporting rigs (1 for each station) and 1 medic to man the Alpha rig at Station 2 (Alpha 2). If Auburn Hills gets real busy the can then call Star EMS for extra Alpha rigs or use the Mutual Aid agreement with surrounding dept (Rochester Hills or Oakland Twp). It is a real neat system and seems to work well. AHFD has been doing this for a while all the way back to when AMR used to be in the area.

That's essentially the way it works. They have three BLS ambos in the stations that are manned by the POC EMTs. They're modular rigs, and marked as Star, with the exception of AHFD decals on the doors. Alpha 2 is actually owned by the city, and marked accordingly. Their Engine 2 is also licensed as a non-transporting ALS unit for second calls. They can call us, or Rochester Hills for ALS fill-in, not sure who else they have MA agreements with. We can also use them in a pinch for MA into Orion if it really hits the fan.

The concept was created between the city and AMR. The city got an ALS fire department for about half of the start-up costs (back then, AMR provided all of the equipment, the rigs, licensing, etc); AMR (and now Star) does the billing and gives a portion back to the city.

For what it's worth, the medical/paramedic first responder system that Troy PD/Alliance use was originally set up by Paramed. I was one of the original MFRs in Troy. That was another system where we had authorization to use frequencies assigned to either PD or FD, and we used them quite a bit.

As far as the CEMS radio traffic, could be an accidental oops (picked up the wrong mic or they could be using Novi dispatch times to help fill out the run sheets.

I don't think it's accidental, I hear it several times a night.
 
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So,Star EMS has a unit stationed at Auburn Hills F.D. stations all throughout the city? Do they do this with any other communities?

Not in the same sense as we do in Auburn Hills. As mentioned, we provide the three BLS rigs, but their POC EMTs staff them. At Alpha 2, one of the medics works for Star, the other works for AHFD.

In Highland Twp, there is a rig stationed at fire station 1 (Milford/Livingston), but both of the medics are Star's. In White Lake, the unit is actually stationed in a house behind the main fire station (M-59/Porter Rd). They share the exit apron, and the FD gave them a Plectron to put in the station, but that's about it. Everywhere else, we're sitting in parking lots on street corners.
 
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