Is this something that is in fact a policy? Or is it something that should be? If its not a reality, what a shame.
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Is this something that is in fact a policy? Or is it something that should be? If its not a reality, what a shame.
troymail
Silent Key
There's probably lots of "recommended best practices" that have been out there over the years. However, keep in mind that FiRST is fairly new and some localities still operate on VHF. You can't mandate something like this an expect immediate implementation - at least not unless you pay for radio upgrades and replacements with those mandates. The FiRST system itself has been in the works for more than 10 years (if I recall correctly) - nothing happens overnight and without other forcing functions (i.e. "you won't get funds unless...", etc.), the attitude in some far corners of any state are typically "we don't need those 'big city' things". On the other hand, you'll also find large metropolitan jurisdictions not wanting to be told "you must" either - so it goes both ways.
For the most part, there are still the long-standing nationwide TAC channels on all bands that can be both utilized and even patched by MEMA to provide interoperability. Even Baltimore City used the 8TACs during their recent 800 Mhz system failure (and not FiRST).
troymail
Silent Key
Charles County - 2021
Petition to the FCC for "slow growth" and projected deployment of a new system 1/1/2021
https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsEntry/...tachmentKey=20187481&attachmentInd=applAttach
Petition to the FCC for "slow growth" and projected deployment of a new system 1/1/2021
https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsEntry/...tachmentKey=20187481&attachmentInd=applAttach
That was a poorly written request... Anyway, it looks like they purchased subscriber radios earlier than planned, and are adding 2 additional frequencies on top of the two originally planned for the new system?
troymail
Silent Key
Cecil County dropping the ball?
Cecil's new 800 Mhz licenses are in "termination pending status for failure to meet the buildout requirement".
WQYF685
WQXX275
Paperwork snafu? Change of plans?
Cecil's new 800 Mhz licenses are in "termination pending status for failure to meet the buildout requirement".
WQYF685
WQXX275
Paperwork snafu? Change of plans?
Kinda sounds like someone dropped the ball, the county or their consultant...
Or maybe the frequencies couldn't be coordinated? What entity coordinates freqs in their area?
Or maybe they are now considering going the state's 700 system?
They seem adverse to spending tons of money on their radio infrastructure, unlike other Maryland jurisdictions.
Or maybe the frequencies couldn't be coordinated? What entity coordinates freqs in their area?
Or maybe they are now considering going the state's 700 system?
They seem adverse to spending tons of money on their radio infrastructure, unlike other Maryland jurisdictions.
Looks like in the end of June, Cecil met with 3 vendors. Not sure if they ever picked one or not....
https://vimeo.com/222508635
https://vimeo.com/222508635
troymail
Silent Key
Noticing now that Cecil petitioned the FCC to keep their licenses... letter was dated August 16th but not entered into the FCC system until 10/24?
Petition seems to suggest that the frequencies are "active" since 6/15/2017...
https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsEntry/...ttachmentKey=20242172&attachmentInd=licAttach
Even so, the licenses are still in a termination pending status.
I did search here and only freq in that License range 854MHZ-859MHZ active here was 855.3375
which is DP+L Power company..
ULS License - Other Indust/Land Transp. 806-821/851-866 MHz, Trunked License - WPNP548 - DELMARVA POWER AND LIGHT COMPANY
Noticed under Admin on above DP+L license they also did some letter wrangling with the FCC on construction.
which is DP+L Power company..
ULS License - Other Indust/Land Transp. 806-821/851-866 MHz, Trunked License - WPNP548 - DELMARVA POWER AND LIGHT COMPANY
Noticed under Admin on above DP+L license they also did some letter wrangling with the FCC on construction.
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They could file the petition online if they chose to do so. Not sure why there is a wide discrepancy in the date of the letter, and when it showed up in the system. But the county has been have administrative issues by their own admission, and also states the frequencies were active back in June, although it seems they did not file the proper paperwork at that time either.
Looks like Cecil is in the clear again for now..
ULS License - PubSafty/SpecEmer/PubSaftyNtlPlan,806-817/851-862MHz,Trunked License - WQXX275 - CECIL, COUNTY OF - Administration
ULS License - PubSafty/SpecEmer/PubSaftyNtlPlan,806-817/851-862MHz,Trunked License - WQXX275 - CECIL, COUNTY OF - Administration
Looks like Dorchester County wants to become a primary user on MD FiRST.
http://doit.maryland.gov/support/Radio Control Board Minutes/December 13, 2017 Agenda.pdf
http://doit.maryland.gov/support/Radio Control Board Minutes/December 13, 2017 Agenda.pdf
Looking back into Control Board minutes, it looks like the University of Maryland in College Park, and Frostburg State want to become primary users.
http://doit.maryland.gov/support/Radio Control Board Minutes/June 21, 2017 Minutes.pdf
In other minutes, CSX Transportation Police and US Marshalls Service might also interested in becoming primary users.
EDIT:
ICE also wants to come on board:
http://doit.maryland.gov/support/Radio Control Board Minutes/June 22, 2016 Minutes.pdf
http://doit.maryland.gov/support/Radio Control Board Minutes/June 21, 2017 Minutes.pdf
In other minutes, CSX Transportation Police and US Marshalls Service might also interested in becoming primary users.
EDIT:
ICE also wants to come on board:
http://doit.maryland.gov/support/Radio Control Board Minutes/June 22, 2016 Minutes.pdf
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troymail
Silent Key
If I am reading it correctly, Wicomico advised the FCC that as of 12/1 their new sites are built (at least some).
ULS License - PubSafty/SpecEmer/PubSaftyNtlPlan,806-817/851-862MHz,Trunked License - WPMU653 - WICOMICO, COUNTY OF
but they also have two licenses in terminaton pending status....
ULS License - PubSafty/SpecEmer/PubSaftyNtlPlan,806-817/851-862MHz,Trunked License - WQYM454 - WICOMICO, COUNTY OF - Frequencies Summary
ULS License - PubSafty/SpecEmer/PubSaftyNtlPlan,806-817/851-862MHz,Trunked License - WQYM691 - WICOMICO, COUNTY OF - Frequencies Summary
I wonder how close they are to cutover? Found an old document from 2015 saying cutover would be in March 2017.
http://www.wicomicocounty.org/documentcenter/view/3513
troymail
Silent Key
Everything n the shore seems to be running behind schedule ... not really a shocker.
Mr_Boh
Member
It's not just the shore. I am involved in similar projects in urban/suburban areas and they almost consistently miss their mark. Honestly it's not a bad thing because the way these projects go, if you give people (both customers and vendors) a far out date they will slack off longer thinking they have more time whereas people do their best to hit a date so they will prioritize better and make informed decisions about pushing back deployments.
I've heard rumors that several counties in Maryland have had to push back new systems including Montgomery, Anne Arundel, and Howard for different reasons.
I've heard rumors that several counties in Maryland have had to push back new systems including Montgomery, Anne Arundel, and Howard for different reasons.
troymail
Silent Key
The larger the more likely delays. Shore systems probably slip mostly because these are big changes for small counties. In Worcester County's case, it sounds like - as is the case many places - they tried to keep costs down and then found out they needed more towers... this seems to be a common theme these days... we're seeing new systems require double (or more) the number of towers.
It's always better to delay and get it right - unlike some other western shore counties did by only building half a system and going live.
There could be other reasons for delays too. I know of a new P25 system near me that was essential "forced" to go live because - as the story goes - the old Motorola system suddenly "failed"...
It was interesting to see the numerous failures of the Upper Shore (UES) system just before they switched over to FiRST... gotta wonder.
Ha! These three haven't much gotten off the ground at all. Lots of paperwork, etc. and in some cases, funding for planning and other things seems to constantly get shifted to other priorities.
DisasterGuy
Member
For clarification, Worcester submitted an RFP based on specific coverage criteria (6db, 14db and 20db in-building w/ portable on hip). The county awarded a contract for those coverages. Any additional sites beyond the contract sites will be the responsibility of the vendor based on their contractual coverage requirements. The county from the beginning of the RFP process expected not less than 6 sites be required.
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troymail
Silent Key
Anne Arundel status....
https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsEntry/...tachmentKey=20280551&attachmentInd=applAttach
In late 2016, the County finalized and published the Request for Proposals
(RFP) for the Next Generation APCO-25 Public Safety Trunked Radio
system. Proposals were due to the County by May 31, 2017.
https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsEntry/...tachmentKey=20280551&attachmentInd=applAttach
In late 2016, the County finalized and published the Request for Proposals
(RFP) for the Next Generation APCO-25 Public Safety Trunked Radio
system. Proposals were due to the County by May 31, 2017.
• Evaluation of proposals commenced in early June 2017.
• Contract negotiations commenced in early September 2017.
• The County completed contract negotiations and awarded a $48.4M
contract to Motorola Solutions, Inc. on December 22, 2017, for a new 22
site Next Generation APCO-25 Phase 2 Public Safety Trunked Radio
system and the complete replacement of all legacy mobile and portable
subscriber radio terminals with new APCO-25 Phase 2 compliant mobile
and portable subscriber radio terminal equipment.
• Contract negotiations commenced in early September 2017.
• The County completed contract negotiations and awarded a $48.4M
contract to Motorola Solutions, Inc. on December 22, 2017, for a new 22
site Next Generation APCO-25 Phase 2 Public Safety Trunked Radio
system and the complete replacement of all legacy mobile and portable
subscriber radio terminals with new APCO-25 Phase 2 compliant mobile
and portable subscriber radio terminal equipment.
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