Confused RRDB Admin

west-pac

Member
Joined
Nov 13, 2004
Messages
1,641
Why would a RRDB Admin delete the last-known good site information an analog radio system simply because they found a P25 radio license for that location? I thought the RRDB was based on user-supplied data, not FCC license data? This out-of-state admin requested that local users see if the site converted to P25, but then deleted the analog site information that one would need to monitor to see if the radio traffic did cease and move somewhere else. They also did not provide the new P25 FCC license data (to monitor for activity) that they "assumed" was in use now.

FWIW, this last analog site has stayed analog supposedly because of a conflict between policy makers. At last check, after the P25 license was issued, this site was still analog.

This analog site data has since been deleted, so there will be no more checking that site for radio activity.

 

Attachments

  • Screenshot_20240921_083611_Chrome.jpg
    Screenshot_20240921_083611_Chrome.jpg
    56.4 KB · Views: 49

wa8pyr

Technischer Guru
Staff member
Lead Database Admin
Joined
Sep 22, 2002
Messages
7,150
Location
Ohio
Why would a RRDB Admin delete the last-known good site information an analog radio system simply because they found a P25 radio license for that location? I thought the RRDB was based on user-supplied data, not FCC license data? This out-of-state admin requested that local users see if the site converted to P25, but then deleted the analog site information that one would need to monitor to see if the radio traffic did cease and move somewhere else. They also did not provide the new P25 FCC license data (to monitor for activity) that they "assumed" was in use now.

FWIW, this last analog site has stayed analog supposedly because of a conflict between policy makers. At last check, after the P25 license was issued, this site was still analog.

This analog site data has since been deleted, so there will be no more checking that site for radio activity.

I have put the system back to normal display until we get to the bottom of this.

Do you have the info for the site in your records. If so please provide it.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: pto

west-pac

Member
Joined
Nov 13, 2004
Messages
1,641
I have put the system back to normal display until we get to the bottom of this.

Do you have the info for the site in your records. If so please provide it.

I do not have that analog site data easily or readily available.

Maybe the Way Back machine would have it. 🤷‍♂️ That's not something I'm familiar with using.
 

wa8pyr

Technischer Guru
Staff member
Lead Database Admin
Joined
Sep 22, 2002
Messages
7,150
Location
Ohio
I do not have that analog site data easily or readily available.

Maybe the Way Back machine would have it. 🤷‍♂️ That's not something I'm familiar with using.
Presumably the frequencies are the same as before? I just checked the FCC license history and it appears they simply changed the emission designators.

Wayback probably not; it doesn’t do well with fluid data like databases.
 

wa8pyr

Technischer Guru
Staff member
Lead Database Admin
Joined
Sep 22, 2002
Messages
7,150
Location
Ohio
 

wa8pyr

Technischer Guru
Staff member
Lead Database Admin
Joined
Sep 22, 2002
Messages
7,150
Location
Ohio

Spitfire8520

I might be completely clueless! =)
Joined
Jun 29, 2009
Messages
2,007
Location
Colorado
But all of the site specifics are not available; when you click on the site name it points you to the current page. That’s where the Wayback Machine doesn’t work well, when a link points you to a fluid database rather than a static web page.
The old RRDB v1 link was saved on March 10, 2021 and presumably has whatever was in the database before the SAFE-T migration as the system had not been updated since November 7, 2018. It looks like the site never really had any information added to it other than the FCC license.
 

INDY72

Monitoring since 1982, using radios since 1991.
Joined
Dec 18, 2002
Messages
14,817
Location
Indianapolis, IN
IDOC was a totally separate system prior to the ASTRO-25 upgrade for the SAFE-T. IPSC has now made individual IDOC sites into subsystems of the SAFE-T trs all same sysid etc. New Castle is I believe the only one not fully converted yet. The even added an conventional P25 system for one site that had never had its own real system before. New Castle never had all the information gathered unfortunately so if it is still an 3600 trs, now is the time if anyone can go over and log it. It won't be analog too much longer.
 
Last edited:
Top