Just wondering if it will happen as I sit here and listen to a new system that came online. Sounds very similar to a regular Moto 3600 system.
Connect Plus CC decoding in Unitrunker someday?
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Totally different technology. 2-Slot TDMA (which is Digital) as against Analog FM.
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DSD (the version with the filter is best) + DMRDecode work good chief. Not ideal but I assume you have tried those, no?
Mike
I don't have a tapped scanner at the moment. I might tap the 996xt soon though.
My comment still stands, it _sounds_ like a 3600 control channel.
Don't hold your breath on UT supporting such things. UT can barely do what its already designed for.
Just because something sounds similar, doesn't make it so. Technically speaking, they sound similar but are absolutely different in every way.
Just because something sounds similar, doesn't make it so. Technically speaking, they sound similar but are absolutely different in every way.
Decoding the control information isn't a problem. For voice following, the program can steer a second radio to voice traffic. Works great on FDMA systems.
This falls apart under TDMA. AFAIK, no scanner accepts the TDMA slot number as a parameter (for P25 TDMA - both X2 and P2). Programs like DSD also do not accept a slot for listening.
This problem will need to be solved to permit voice following.
This falls apart under TDMA. AFAIK, no scanner accepts the TDMA slot number as a parameter (for P25 TDMA - both X2 and P2). Programs like DSD also do not accept a slot for listening.
This problem will need to be solved to permit voice following.
The problem with 2 time slot decoding isn't really the DSD program itself, the problem is the scanner being used to do it. The hardware in these radios just isn't set up for 2 time slot. I don't see them doing so anytime soon either. Seems that Uniden is always a number of years behind when it comes to these things.
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Will there be a unitrunker ver in the works that can follow trunked trbo data?
Connect and or cap plus systems?
Connect and or cap plus systems?
You should read what Unitrunker [the author of Unitrunker] says a couple posts above yours
Mike
Muxlow
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There is plenty in my area. W wide area trunked trbo system with atleast 10 different towers.. Plenty of trbo stuff and NXDN all around.. Be handy to have a tracking program of sorts
Add that to my wish list haha
Add that to my wish list haha
Even without voice following of any sorts, it would still be handy as hell. The decoding can be done (see DMRDecode) so I don't see why it couldn't eventually be rolled into an 'all in one' program like UT. I use DMRDecode frequently and it works great, but it would be nice to have a program that would let you tag groups/radios on the trunked systems.
I think Rick's time is better spent enjoying life [and refining UT further as time allows]. I think that trying to make UT the end all to be all for every decodeable digital format is silly.
This is especially true since, even in the best of cases, decoded TRBO and NXDN sounds like total crap. When i'm feeling like I really want to abuse myself, I'll screw around with DSD and DMRDecode, but the bottom line is that the decoded sound quality of TRBO is such that I'd never want to monitor it on even a semi-regular basis.
Mike
This is especially true since, even in the best of cases, decoded TRBO and NXDN sounds like total crap. When i'm feeling like I really want to abuse myself, I'll screw around with DSD and DMRDecode, but the bottom line is that the decoded sound quality of TRBO is such that I'd never want to monitor it on even a semi-regular basis.
Mike
I don't think anyone is making demands of where UT goes in the future, we are just making requests and suggestions that Rick may be able to roll in as time permits. I'd like to think most of us understand that Rick does what he does as a hobby as well and family time certainly comes first.
As far as TRBO an DSD are concerned, it can be made to sound quite good. Depending on your area it may not be worth your time to tinker with, but in my area TRBO is used heavily by both commercial and public safety agencies.... but that's not really topic for discussion in this thread.
As far as TRBO an DSD are concerned, it can be made to sound quite good. Depending on your area it may not be worth your time to tinker with, but in my area TRBO is used heavily by both commercial and public safety agencies.... but that's not really topic for discussion in this thread.
From the release 25 notes:
* Detection
For discriminator signal receivers, the program will display the type of signal in the Protocol field. In addition to detecting 2 slot OpenSky and ProVoice, the program also detects DMR and NXDN. To be clear, these formats are *detected*, not decoded. If you find a control channel but can't figure out what it is, this feature may help.
Thanks for listening, and any further decoding work will be appreciated. There's also a lot of Opensky here too (PA) so I will look forward to any progress you make there as well.
* Detection
For discriminator signal receivers, the program will display the type of signal in the Protocol field. In addition to detecting 2 slot OpenSky and ProVoice, the program also detects DMR and NXDN. To be clear, these formats are *detected*, not decoded. If you find a control channel but can't figure out what it is, this feature may help.
Thanks for listening, and any further decoding work will be appreciated. There's also a lot of Opensky here too (PA) so I will look forward to any progress you make there as well.
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