Connecting SDS200 and ProScan through LAN - set up question(s)...

[johnsland8]

I'm trying to connect to my SDS200 with the LAN connection using ProScan. My first question is, should this setup configuration be able to work:

My internet connection is through an Xfi Modem/Gateway. This has 2 Ethernet connections. I have my PC direct connected to one connection and my router is connected to the other. If I have the SDS200 connected to the router will my PC be able to communicate with the SDS200 through the router, even though my PC is not directly connected to the router?

Thank you!

 

[belvdr]

If your PC has a public IP address, you'll need to configure port forwarding on the router.

 

[ProScan]

If your PC has a public IP address, you'll need to configure port forwarding on the router.

Negative. Port Forwarding is for when ProScan is setup as a server. Either Web Server or RSOIP (Remote Scanner Over IP).

johnsland8, First step is setting up the scanner LAN. Go to the scanner menu Settings -> LAN Settings - Show IPs. See if the IP's show. If not then backout and go into Set IP Assignment then Auto. After that see if the scanner acquired the IP's. if yes then it should work.

 

[belvdr]

Negative. Port Forwarding is for when ProScan is setup as a server. Either Web Server or RSOIP (Remote Scanner Over IP).

johnsland8, First step is setting up the scanner LAN. Go to the scanner menu Settings -> LAN Settings - Show IPs. See if the IP's show. If not then backout and go into Set IP Assignment then Auto. After that see if the scanner acquired the IP's. if yes then it should work.

How do you expect the PC and the SDS to communicate, when the SDS is behind the router and is NATed, assuming this is your standard consumer router?

 

[ProScan]

How do you expect the PC and the SDS to communicate, when the SDS is behind the router and is NATed, assuming this is your standard consumer router?

Because they are both on the LAN. Port Forwarding is needed when a server is setup on the inside so it can receive traffic from the outside.

 

[belvdr]

Because they are both on the LAN. Port Forwarding is needed when a server is setup on the inside so it can receive traffic from the outside.

I'm very familiar with concepts of NAT and PAT.

The OP may need to chime in again to clarify, but it sounds like the router and the PC are both connected to an Ethernet port on the modem and the SDS is behind the router:

I'm trying to connect to my SDS200 with the LAN connection using ProScan. My first question is, should this setup configuration be able to work:

My internet connection is through an Xfi Modem/Gateway. This has 2 Ethernet connections. I have my PC direct connected to one connection and my router is connected to the other. If I have the SDS200 connected to the router will my PC be able to communicate with the SDS200 through the router, even though my PC is not directly connected to the router?

Thank you!

If that's the case, port forwarding is needed.

 

[ProScan]

If Port Forwarding is needed, How would that work?
The scanner is the server and ProScan is the client.
To complicate matters, The computer running ProScan changes the TCP port # each connection and the scanner UDP port # changes each connection.

 

[belvdr]

If Port Forwarding is needed, How would that work?
The scanner is the server and ProScan is the client.
To complicate matters, The computer running ProScan changes the TCP port # each connection and the scanner UDP port # changes each connection.

I don't know the specifics of the SDS network connectivity, but it's interesting the scanner uses a different port number each time. I've never heard of a system doing that, when it serves content. If that's the case, I suggest moving the PC behind the router to simplify it.

 

[ProScan]

I don't know the specifics of the SDS network connectivity, but it's interesting the scanner uses a different port number each time. I've never heard of a system doing that, when it serves content. If that's the case, I suggest moving the PC behind the router to simplify it.

The LAN audio uses the RTSP/RTP protocol (edit) using TCP and UDP. The data is using UDP only.

 

[belvdr]

The LAN audio uses the RTSP/RTP protocol (edit) using TCP and UDP. The data is using UDP only.

But are the ports on the SDS changing every reboot or poweroff? If not, simply port forward those to the SDS. If so, I'd move the PC.

 

[scanbc780]

If yours is setup the way I am picturing it, you are double NAT'd... possibly. Most definitely behind the NAT as your computer is not getting through the WAN into the router.

Your modem is connected to your computer and your SDS is connected to your router. Your computer is sitting on the WAN side and your SDS is on the LAN side. You will most likely need to put your computer on the router, if you want to go the easiest route. The downside to this, is your ISP may be expecting to see your MAC from your computer. If this is the case, you would need to make your router MAC your authorized MAC with your ISP.

 

[ProScan]

They change every time ProScan & RadioFeed reconnect button is clicked. Same with VLC Open Network Stream Play button. The destination ports are fixed just the originator ports change. That's pretty much standard. Same with any web browser, the standard destination ports are 80 & 443 but the originator ports change each request.

 

[johnsland8]

Just to clarify, My PC is hard-wired directly to the Modem. The Router is hard-wired to the Modem. The SDS200 is hard-wired to the router. When I plug in the Ethernet cable into the SDS200 I get Yellow and Green Lights. The Yellow light is always solid, the green light flickers from time to time. I can go into the LAN settings and get the IP info. It does change everytime I reboot the SDS200. When I go into ProScan - Comm Port - I set the Port to URL, go into URL Setup, Type in the SDS200 IP Address. If I hit the "reconnect" button, I get Bytes TX adding up but nothing under Bytes RX. Auto Detect never retrieves anything. I get no response in ProScan like it's never actually connected to the SDS200. I cannot use the display or any interfaces. I am able to accomplish this with the USB connection and serial port setting, but nothing with the LAN.

 

[scanbc780]

Because you are on the WAN side of the NAT. The NAT on the router by default will not let you connect to anything behind it.

There is an easy way around it, as I said above, and a complicated way.

What model modem do you have?

 

[johnsland8]

If your PC has a public IP address, you'll need to configure port forwarding on the router.

If I were going to use port forwarding, I would be forwarding the router to which? The modem, where the PC is connected? or directly to the PC?

 

[johnsland8]

Because you are on the WAN side of the NAT. The NAT on the router by default will not let you connect to anything behind it.

There is an easy way around it, as I said above, and a complicated way.

What model modem do you have?

The modem is a new one from Xfinity Xfi, but it's an Arris TG3482G. The router is a Netgear WNDR3400.

 

[johnsland8]

BTW... They didn't originally connect my PC to the modem, it doesn't need to be. I just connected it directly because it is rated for MUCH higher speeds than my old router will allow.

 

[scanbc780]

Oh gotcha, you only have 2 lan ports on your modem? What I would personally do (easiest route), is put a switch on your modem and connect your SDS to your modem as well. It should connect right up then.

Disconnect your router and plug your SDS in there and let it snag a new IP from the modem and try it out. I am willing to bet it will connect then... at least to try it out temporarily.

 

[buddrousa]

I'm trying to connect to my SDS200 with the LAN connection using ProScan. My first question is, should this setup configuration be able to work:

My internet connection is through an Xfi Modem/Gateway. This has 2 Ethernet connections. I have my PC direct connected to one connection and my router is connected to the other. If I have the SDS200 connected to the router will my PC be able to communicate with the SDS200 through the router, even though my PC is not directly connected to the router?

Thank you!

As posted by the OP LAN (Local Area Network) In his house while in his house Only what BOB (PROSCAN) is answering. It works great I have 5 BCD536's and 1 SDS200 connected to PROSCAN in my house on my LAN with NO PROBLEMS. I also am running 16 Uniden Scanners on the same PC with no LAN PROBLEMS and if you know more about networking than going to WALMART and buying a Router you can connect to all 16 Uniden Scanners through the WAN (Wide Area Network) better known as THE INTERNET.
To the OP hook up your PC to your ROUTER and keep everything on the same network.

 

[belvdr]

If I were going to use port forwarding, I would be forwarding the router to which? The modem, where the PC is connected? or directly to the PC?

Port forward the SDS port to the WAN side of the router. I'm not certain what that port is, but @ProScan should be able to tell you.

To tell if you are double NATed, simply open a command prompt, type ipconfig, and tell me your IP address. I only need the first two numbers, separated by periods.