It is very common to hear officers radio in and say " im out at the station for a personal"...now, never knowing exactly what that meant, i assumed, as would most people, that it was for a meal, maybe to hit the head, just take a general break. Funny part is, usually if they are taking a meal they say they'll be 10-6 for a meal or out at the station for a report, they will say what they are there for, other times, it seems the term "out on a personal" is used....secondly..when an officer clears a vehicle stop and calls in saying "no disposition". I've heard many ideas of what this can mean. One being, they stopped an off-duty officer or someone their friendly with, and didnt cite or warn them, other times, they may have stopped a car fitting a description similar to what was broadcasted, and it turns out they stopped the wrong car, and they will clear with "no disposition"...can anyone shed light on this, im sure its the same in the neighboring counties.
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NMPhillieFan
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Generally speaking, "no disposition" would mean no official action taken. Instead of filing a report or citing the driver, they may have just let them off with a few stern words about their speed, etc...
The department that I used to work for, when we said "out on personal" we were taking time off, using "personal leave" for anything that was not using vacation time accrued. Generally it was out on a sick day (also known as a scratch) or on comp time (unused OT taken off in lieu of pay).
No dispo means what it sounds like... no disposition taken, no ticket, no warning and best of all, generally no report. Though lately it seems the department I listen uses HBO (handled by officer) over no disposition.
No dispo means what it sounds like... no disposition taken, no ticket, no warning and best of all, generally no report. Though lately it seems the department I listen uses HBO (handled by officer) over no disposition.
Matt93
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Here, if an officer doesn't give the guy a warning, he/she would say "I'll be clear with a warning" and if they do write the ticket, they would say "I'l be 98 one issued"
Steveradio
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Normally we use plain English over our radios even though we are a private community. Normally you will call in "Traffic Stop and vehicle description and occupants" after you clear 10-91 they normally ask if you don't give it to them "Verbal warning, written warning, or citation and than they ask they citation number" but for breaks we don't even call in anymore unless we need our partner to meet us than its come to 10-19 (Station).
JoeyC
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Out on a personal - I'm going to the bathroom.
Steveradio
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10-100 I think is universal for restroom break... or 10-7 Out Of service (Personal) is used too..
ctrabs74
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Most of Chester County uses plain speak when statusing or they simply use their MDTs.
In West Chester, which is the last dept in the county to use 10 codes, typically, they go 10-17 (traffic stop), run a 10-28 (d/l number) and/or 10-29 (registration). When a traffic citation is issued, they typically status as 10-92 (status ok)/10-65 (citation issued).
As far as a personal is concerned, it's usually "10-19 (on station) for a personal."
In West Chester, which is the last dept in the county to use 10 codes, typically, they go 10-17 (traffic stop), run a 10-28 (d/l number) and/or 10-29 (registration). When a traffic citation is issued, they typically status as 10-92 (status ok)/10-65 (citation issued).
As far as a personal is concerned, it's usually "10-19 (on station) for a personal."
Fast1eddie
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I work in Allegheny County. Different comm style in this region, trend is moving towards plain text. 10 Codes vary way too much to be any good. If I make a stop and elect not to cite, I simply clear. It is no one's business if we cite or not. Personal??? Never heard of it. If I am hungry, I stop. Take a leak, I do so. My radio is always on and many times I have abruptly left my meal or whatever to take a call. Every region will have it's own unique way of handling radio traffic.
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SCANdal
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Yes, my Maintenance keeps the bathrooms clean enough for that...don't be jealous...
I hear what you're saying...there isn't a real need to advise Dispatch if all you are doing is running into the stationhouse for a number 1...but if you're going in for a something more involved (i.e. a number 2 - undoing the gunbelt, pants around the ankles, newspaper in hand, you get the picture), one might want to let Dispatch know that it might take a little more then a few shakes and a zip to answer the radio and get back out on the road - thus...
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I hear what you're saying...there isn't a real need to advise Dispatch if all you are doing is running into the stationhouse for a number 1...but if you're going in for a something more involved (i.e. a number 2 - undoing the gunbelt, pants around the ankles, newspaper in hand, you get the picture), one might want to let Dispatch know that it might take a little more then a few shakes and a zip to answer the radio and get back out on the road - thus...
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NMPhillieFan
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It's like the question "if a tree falls in the forest and nobody is there to hear it, does it make a sound?"
If an officer gives you a warning and he never pulls you over again, does it really matter? A verbal warning is not documented, therefor there is no "official" disposition...in other words, no record it ever even happened.
Fast1eddie
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Verbal warnings???? Yes they do matter and can be effective. We have discretion-you cannot lock everyone up or issue citations for every little infraction. Please realize I am referring to Summary level offenses-misdemeanors or felonies-you go to jail. Here in Pennsylvania we process and release misdemeanor offenders and they receive a summons through the mail, unless they refuse to identify themselves or are a threat to the community. I am getting off the topic, enforcing the law is not a one size fits all methodology. A communities demographics and political directives influence much of what we do. Law Enforcement is a truly unique profession that is 90% boring, 5% depressing and 5% terror. Think of what you DON'T get to see on reality cop tv.....
We do not have a bathroom code that I am aware of, if I gotta go I tell my partner....hate doing it at work any way......
We do not have a bathroom code that I am aware of, if I gotta go I tell my partner....hate doing it at work any way......
I hafta say, i do agree with those percentages of 90% boring...5% depressing...5% terror. Unless ur in a very busy city, or county...example of LAPD or San Bernadino county...or something to the effect, of one of those two...there is a lot of downtime, especially during the over night hours in many twps....unless u wanna go out and make some vehicle stops or something else proactive, the shift can really drag.
I'm in Chesco, and when I work PD all my stops are done through the MDT. When I clear the stop I use the letter C for clear followed by a comma , and then I type in what I did for that stop. So it would go like this
C,1543a issued vehicle towed by joe blow towing So yes all my stops are documented in the county computer system along with my log that I have to type up for my 12 hour shift. So yes there are records for my department.
Fast1eddie
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Sweet!!!!!!!!! Just moved to a Beaver County borough (Industry) and apparently the computers were pulled due to coverage issues. Everything is run through dispatch, just like the old days. Be careful out there, brother!
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