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Good band openings this morning. FBI North Texas 167.2875 167 NAC Radio ID: 3144000 TGID: 65535 several hits all encrypted but well used. 2 bars from SE Fannin Co. It shows as WFalls Mobile and Houston so not sure which city I was hearing, probably WFalls. 167.3125 167 NAC (And I have it as Dallas North) Not as busy as the other but active. And several hits with good audio on the new Megahertz Tier 3 system. Dallas site 2 with a TGID of 1091 either professional Security or a Police Department.

Stuff is active, y'all with all that SDR stuff could be the next rising star in the Texas database!
 

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SDR is a game changer for even novice users. Watch the band, find a signal even if weak, analyze. I haven’t gone as far as I want to go with a laptop mount and truck antenna for mobile use but I definitely pick up far more than I ever did with just a scanner.
 

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I have two a RTL and a Nooelec and hate em both. TOO complicated for a East Texas good ole boy living in the land of conventional radio.
 

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I have two a RTL and a Nooelec and hate em both. TOO complicated for an East Texas good ole boy living in the land of conventional radio.
I can see where that can complicate things, but for the total system profiles we put into the database they are definitely a necessity these days. For conventional P25 or analog they aren’t necessary unless you are looking for the unknown, I.E. Federal…
 

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Good band openings this morning. FBI North Texas 167.2875 167 NAC Radio ID: 3144000 TGID: 65535 several hits all encrypted but well used. 2 bars from SE Fannin Co. It shows as WFalls Mobile and Houston so not sure which city I was hearing, probably WFalls.
You heard a repeater someplace and it wasn't from Wichita Falls.
I heard mobiles on 167.2875 simplex here a couple times several years ago and it's been dead since. Probably Dallas FO has a bunch of simplex channels and that is probably one of them.

Back when they went P25 I think they moved all the repeaters that belong to the Dallas FO out of the 167 MHz range to conform with the NTIA band plan. I think in Oklahoma many of them stayed there. Maybe it varies by field office.

Some of the stuff here Federal (Dallas County) Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference I submitted over 20 years ago and are probably no good any longer. I don't think anybody cares about it now. The same is true with the wiki article Federal (TX) - The RadioReference Wiki.
 
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You heard a repeater someplace and it wasn't from Wichita Falls.
I heard mobiles on 167.2875 simplex here a couple times several years ago and it's been dead since. Probably Dallas FO has a bunch of simplex channels and that is probably one of them.

Back when they went P25 I think they moved all the repeaters that belong to the Dallas FO out of the 167 MHz range to conform with the NTIA band plan. I think in Oklahoma many of them stayed there. Maybe it varies by field office.

Some of the stuff here Federal (Dallas County) Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference I submitted over 20 years ago and are probably no good any longer. I don't think anybody cares about it now. The same is true with the wiki article Federal (TX) - The RadioReference Wiki.
I picked up what sounded like OTAR with the skip yesterday morning at 3 am, simultaneously, on 167.2625, 167.2875 and 167.3125. No P25 NAC was seen for them but it showed P25 on DSD Plus.
 

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Good band openings this morning. FBI North Texas 167.2875 167 NAC Radio ID: 3144000 TGID: 65535 several hits all encrypted but well used. 2 bars from SE Fannin Co. It shows as WFalls Mobile and Houston so not sure which city I was hearing, probably WFalls. 167.3125 167 NAC (And I have it as Dallas North) Not as busy as the other but active. And several hits with good audio on the new Megahertz Tier 3 system. Dallas site 2 with a TGID of 1091 either professional Security or a Police Department.

Stuff is active, y'all with all that SDR stuff could be the next rising star in the Texas database!
314#### - tells me Dallas FO coverage area- so not Houston
 

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I picked up what sounded like OTAR with the skip yesterday morning at 3 am, simultaneously, on 167.2625, 167.2875 and 167.3125. No P25 NAC was seen for them but it showed P25 on DSD Plus.
I've experienced this also, Audio is defiantly P25 but shows DCS codes. I believe system fusion can handle standard CTCSS and sounds like P25. I wonder if they're using a commercial version of that?
 

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You heard a repeater someplace and it wasn't from Wichita Falls.
I heard mobiles on 167.2875 simplex here a couple times several years ago and it's been dead since. Probably Dallas FO has a bunch of simplex channels and that is probably one of them.

Back when they went P25 I think they moved all the repeaters that belong to the Dallas FO out of the 167 MHz range to conform with the NTIA band plan. I think in Oklahoma many of them stayed there. Maybe it varies by field office.

Some of the stuff here Federal (Dallas County) Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference I submitted over 20 years ago and are probably no good any longer. I don't think anybody cares about it now. The same is true with the wiki article Federal (TX) - The RadioReference Wiki.
And OKC isn't outside of the realm of possibilities. I have a VERY OLD "D/FW Frequency List" Published by Ken Winters 5th. edition 1999 and I believe the final edition. I have some of that info programmed along with the newer stuff, some hits some don't.
 

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If you are getting weird P25 sounding signals it could be intermod or images from other stuff in other parts of the band. If you are getting DCS or PL on a digtial sounding signal it is either the decoder falsing or intermod/mixing of P25 with an analog signal with DCS or PL.
Digital modes can't have DCS or PL. Thats what NAC, RAN, Color Codes, etc. are for.

I don't think there is a commercial version of YSF.

I remember the D/FW Frequency List. It had too much incorrect data. Not really worth the money.
 

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I've experienced this also, Audio is defiantly P25 but shows DCS codes. I believe system fusion can handle standard CTCSS and sounds like P25. I wonder if they're using a commercial version of that?
The DCS could be coming down the line from a remote RX site, we've had that here in Boston a few times a year, usually when the remote site dips below 30deg :) and then hangs up a carrier from time-time
 
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