Cranford PD Digital Channel?

[c1sheepdog]

Does anyone know the network ID of the Cranford PD? I know it's APCO25, someone told me I need to know which channel or ID they use to program my radio.

thanks

 

[Analogrules]

Cranford PD

I know in the RR database, it says they have a 654 DPL (if that helps). I have heard they are even hard to monitor with a digital scanner. They may even be totally encrypted by now. However, I do know that their old PD frequency, 155.250 is still being used by their traffic department and some crossing guards. It's often active just before and after school hours; also during major town events. At least you can still easily monitor their FD on 476.900.

 

[Highpockets]

Don't quote me on it, but I think I read somewhere in the NJ forum that apco 25 systems do not use pl or dpl. I just ran tone search on pt pleasant, toms river and berkeley and it does not indicate any on either. I you have one set for cranford select csq and try it. I hope it works for you, otherwise they may be encrypted, or maybe I'm off base and nothing I said will help, good luck!

 

[crazyboy]

APCO P-25 does not use a pl or dpl. Instead they use a NAC (network access code). You do not need this code in order to listen, in fact current scanners do not even have a way to use the code.

 

[Art112]

Cranford DPL

When I first got my bearcat 796D I couldn't hear Cranford with the apco 25 card till i removed the dpl code which i obtained on one of the scanning websites. Once the dpl tone was removed they were loud and clear.

Art /K2ADC

 

[kd2pm]

Using BCD396T to listen to Cranford PD

A friend of mine just got his 396T yesterday. He is trying to set it up to monitor the Cranford NJ PD which is APCO25. Now....The scanner from what I can tell will only use APCO25 in trunking mode and not conventional. So the dilemma is how to fake the scanner to monitor a APCO25 conventional?

Anyone hear of any new firmware updates that might help? Cranford has 2 channels but I do not believe them to be trunked in any way...

 

[Highpockets]

The 396 should do apco 25 conventional. Your friend should have no problem hearing them unless they are encrypted, do not use pl or dpl.

 

[ctrabs74]

A friend of mine just got his 396T yesterday. He is trying to set it up to monitor the Cranford NJ PD which is APCO25. Now....The scanner from what I can tell will only use APCO25 in trunking mode and not conventional. So the dilemma is how to fake the scanner to monitor a APCO25 conventional?

No need to fake anything:

1. Make sure PL/DPL search is off.
2. Make sure that the frequencies are programmed as "FM" as opposed to "NFM".

That's how I was able to pick up West Chester (Pa.) PD when the operated in P25 mode. No reason why Cranford shouldn't be the same way.

 

[Analogrules]

If they're not totally encrypted already, I'm sure they're heading in that direction. That town can easily afford the technology to make them impossible to monitor.

 

[kd2pm]

He was able to get the decode to work once he stepped outside the building or got closer to the source. Seems that the 396 has a little problem with picking up the APCO signal where a Moto XTS3000 sitting next to it can hear it just fine. Now...yes, I know that a commercial radio does have the needed selectivity and sensitivity for the freq its made for. I was a little dismayed that the 396 was a bit less sensitive though.

Also, would it not make some sense to have NFM, FM and P25 as options so as to not confuse anyone? I was trying to help him program the unit and I was not aware that AUTO was the only way to hear P25 conventional. I was thinking I had to go to the system section and use the P25 there until I realized that was only for trunking.