CREATION OF A VINTAGE RR FREQUENCY DATABASE? Opinions please

[Archie]

So what does everybody think if Lindsay wanted to create a vintage frequency database from submitted old CRB lists, etc?
And to make it easier than creating a spreadsheet, maybe the frequency pages could just be PDF's.

I think it would be very interesting to have.

Happy Weekend to all.

 

[a417]

So what does everybody think if Lindsay wanted to create a vintage frequency database from submitted old CRB lists, etc?

Do you want this...or do you want people to think blantonl wanted this?

Here's an example of what is alreaday present, if you know what to look for.

Here is one for your state. Granted it's the trunked systems that have been submitted, and over time marked as deprecated...but it's the same idea.

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

If they previously existed in the RR database but no longer do isn't this something that can be accomplished via copying & pasting database links and reverting back to a snapshot via the Wayback Machine?

 

[buddrousa]

Why would you want to have a outdated unused database that just takes up space and resources that could be used for current systems.

 

[RaleighGuy]

Isn't there enough issues with new people using incorrect frequencies now, I would think maintaining a list like this would just add to the confusion about which frequencies to use.

 

[trentbob]

So I started monitoring at a young age in the mid-60s. I still have all of my crb research frequency listings along with police call by Gene Hughes before Radio Shack got involved. Of course there is the Scanner Master books and monitor America.

For my area I know when everything used to be low band VHF simplex and high band repeaters. I find it very interesting for my particular area. It's interesting but obviously useless information even though it does raise curiosity.

If someone is curious about their area, it is certainly easy to look up.

I agree with all the opinions here, not worth taking up the space on radio reference and would be a monumental job to cover the whole country in addition to adding to the confusion that already exists as the hobby gets more complex.

 

[Randyk4661]

This would lead to more confusion with new scanner listeners.
Why would I want a database that has the Los Angeles county sheriff's old 39Mhz channels? The Orange county 45Mhz that haven't been used in more than 45 years? Both of these are used by the CHP now here in California.

If you want to start a historic frequency database, go ahead, just make sure it is clear to the subscribers it is old information and not current.

 

[a417]

Let's also not forget the time/effort/manpower isn't free. PDFs just "don't happen". They (as all software/data sets do) take disk space, backup space, the tasks required to serve them require CPU time, someone needs to babysit them...update them...provide a front end for them, etc.

The single digit user numbers here have to deal with legal nonsense from people claiming DCMA violations on things, takedown notices and commensurately pay the legal eagles to deal with it. That's not free, either.

Would you pay extra for it?

 

[nd5y]

Make a wiki article for your area. Like this.

Wichita County (TX) Old Frequencies - The RadioReference Wiki

wiki.radioreference.com

 

[KevinC]

I propose the OP start a Wiki page.

 

[Archie]

You guys are definitely right !! So Lindsay, kindly delete my post !!

 

[trentbob]

You guys are definitely right !! So Lindsay, kindly delete my post !!

Just because we don't agree it doesn't mean it wasn't a valid idea. As suggested, you could start a Wiki page that will draw interest.

Moderators usually don't erase a thread, you always have the option of pressing report at the local left and requesting it but it isn't warranted. You could ask to have it locked but I don't think that's warranted either, you could get more discussion and opinion.

As long as it doesn't get contentious or off topic, it's all good.

 

[bob550]

Perhaps the OP has discovered a way to time travel back to the 1970's and wants to bring his SDS100 along.

 

[RFI-EMI-GUY]

I think it would be confusing and a lot of effort. Those old hard cover frequency books exist and can be used for historical reasons. I have an old Federal Frequency Guide. At a hamfest some years back I bought a rack mounted Carlson duplex transceiver . It was on some UHF federal frequencies and had NASA and Contractor tags. Through some sleuthing in the FFG I found it was part of the comms system in the Space Shuttle VAB Crawler. Interesting, but not particularly valuable "space junk". So It has been re purposed and repainted for a GMRS repeater.

 

[RFI-EMI-GUY]

Perhaps the OP has discovered a way to time travel back to the 1970's and wants to bring his SDS100 along.

If those radio waves from the 1970's travel 50 light years through space and reconverge back onto planet Earth in the present, one might want to be prepared.

 

[cubn]

Even if the sources are really old, be aware of the RR wiki policy against copying and pasting content without permission:

RR Wiki User's Guide - The RadioReference Wiki

wiki.radioreference.com

 

[w2xq]

So I started monitoring at a young age in the mid-60s. I still have all of my crb research frequency listings along with police call by Gene Hughes before Radio Shack got involved. Of course there is the Scanner Master books and monitor America.

For my area I know when everything used to be low band VHF simplex and high band repeaters. I find it very interesting for my particular area. It's interesting but obviously useless information even though it does raise curiosity.

If someone is curious about their area, it is certainly easy to look up.

I agree with all the opinions here, not worth taking up the space on radio reference and would be a monumental job to cover the whole country in addition to adding to the confusion that already exists as the hobby gets more complex.

Back when I started writing for S9 -- W2XQ.com : Bibliography -- Tom Kneitel asked me to put together the CRB sheet for the Philadelphia and southern New Jersey area. I think the sheet was red in color, but I'm not sure. At the time, Tom didn't want anyone to know CRB was his baby; at that time he was working for Cowan Publishing (S9 and CQ. I honored his request.

I had a probably partial set of the pages including the northern NJ area and NYC but I haven't seen them in a long while. Maybe they are still buried in the file cabinets.

In any case, kudos to Bob for still having his set. That's 57 years ago! Woof.

 

[trentbob]

Back when I started writing for S9 -- W2XQ.com : Bibliography -- Tom Kneitel asked me to put together the CRB sheet for the Philadelphia and southern New Jersey area. I think the sheet was red in color, but I'm not sure. At the time, Tom didn't want anyone to know CRB was his baby; at that time he was working for Cowan Publishing (S9 and CQ. I honored his request.

I had a probably partial set of the pages including the northern NJ area and NYC but I haven't seen them in a long while. Maybe they are still buried in the file cabinets.

In any case, kudos to Bob for still having his set. That's 57 years ago! Woof.

I just saw this now Tom. Yes it was red. I remember those days of crb research in Commack New York and I know I still have all my listings somewhere in the garage in the graveyard of 55 + years of radio equipment LOL

The reason Tom K. made them red or dark orange was so they could not be mimeographed (there's a blast from the past) They came out all black if you try to copy them.

 

[buddrousa]

What people do not know or remember was the key sheets for software was BLACK WRITING ON RED PAPER back in the day BLACK and WHITE COPIERS WOULD SEE BLACK AND RED AS THE SAME COLOR.