Dallas City Local Government

[alexkjohnson]

These are the old 'analog' feeds for Dallas PD. Right now, they are just repeating the new Project 25 Dispatch feeds, but eventually they will go buh-bye.

I submitted a list of Dallas TGID feeds to this site, and most of them were added to the database, back in June.

If you have TGIDs for DSO or DISD, let's see them

Not necessarily. I can at least speak to the North Central dispatch feed (because I run it), and it is pulling the new digital system. My old analog setup went deaf back in May-June when they largely stopped using the UHF channels. I had to scramble a bit to get a P25 receive setup running. It's not perfect yet (I'm still using an omnidirectional discone antenna that I think is contributing to simulcast distortion) and I've purchased a directional Yagi antenna that I'm going to experiment with, hopefully aiming it directly at just one of the simulcast sites and then be able to turn the gain way down.

 

[riverradio68]

This is the list of Feeds available though Broadcastify. Do not know where you are seeing these other audio feeds. But their Terms of Service may be different than Broadcastifys.

Even with the latest release of Talkgroup names released, there are still a lot of active encrypted TGs that have not been identified. Many of those may be DSO and the Jails.

Seriously doubt they are handing out Keys to anyone in the field, and I think that radio guys information was a little misconstrued. The DPD structure is not completely like Fort Worths but there are similarities. Yeah, they may have a detail that needs their own channel, but they are already encrypted, why would they need another layer?

So if you go to the NTIRN Dallas info in the DB, where you see the TGID those that are bold blue are hyperlinked to broadcastify indicating a live stream.

The radio guy at COD who told me about the keys IS the HMFIC of City of Dallas Communications.

Russell, sure thing, will advise whether they are ENC or not. I saw the fix on DISD "SE" But Love Field A, B & C are still double posted in the same department listing.

 

[Harold]

So if you go to the NTIRN Dallas info in the DB, where you see the TGID those that are bold blue are hyperlinked to broadcastify indicating a live stream.

The radio guy at COD who told me about the keys IS the HMFIC of City of Dallas Communications.

Russell, sure thing, will advise whether they are ENC or not. I saw the fix on DISD "SE" But Love Field A, B & C are still double posted in the same department listing.

Hyper linked to the Calls platform and filtered there. Here's a thread. Broadcastify Calls and Permitted Talkgroups

 

[BenScan]

Hyper linked to the Calls platform and filtered there. Here's a thread. Broadcastify Calls and Permitted Talkgroups

I suspect the calls coming through on 31310 are bogus hits from and SDRTrunk or similar streaming. The RIDs are all over the place and the little bit of transmissions that are audible are likely for other talkgroups. I've seen similar behavior on my own setup. Also, looking at 31310 in Unitrunker, all channel grants are showing "P4" AKA encrypted.

 

[Russell]

Yeah, I hear gibberish from QTH. Don't have my SDR hooked back up, yet.

 

[IAmSixNine]

These are the old 'analog' feeds for Dallas PD. Right now, they are just repeating the new Project 25 Dispatch feeds, but eventually they will go buh-bye.

I submitted a list of Dallas TGID feeds to this site, and most of them were added to the database, back in June.

If you have TGIDs for DSO or DISD, let's see them

Not entirely true. If you listen to the DFR feed or the DPD 1 and 2 feed you will hear its not the analog channels. Analog and Digital have very distinct sound. I already miss the analog days.

 

[KI5IRE]

I suspect the calls coming through on 31310 are bogus hits from and SDRTrunk or similar streaming. The RIDs are all over the place and the little bit of transmissions that are audible are likely for other talkgroups. I've seen similar behavior on my own setup. Also, looking at 31310 in Unitrunker, all channel grants are showing "P4" AKA encrypted.

Just reviewed my logs since I started logging the system back in February, nothing in the clear on 31310.

Anyone seen any talkgroups that could be for DFR ARFF at DAL or RBD? I'm wondering if ARFF will be clear or not and will have dedicated talkgroups...

Has anyone logged any DFR Station 21 RIDs?

Also has anyone seen any TGs/RIDs for the Dallas City Airport department?

 

[hiegtx]

Just reviewed my logs since I started logging the system back in February, nothing in the clear on 31310.

Anyone seen any talkgroups that could be for DFR ARFF at DAL or RBD? I'm wondering if ARFF will be clear or not and will have dedicated talkgroups...

Has anyone logged any DFR Station 21 RIDs?

Also has anyone seen any TGs/RIDs for the Dallas City Airport department?

TGID 32022 is listed on NTIRN as DFR Admin.

However, on the list of talkgroups that was posted, showing most all of Dallas (city) talkgroups, it is listed as ARFF. I have it programmed, but to date, I have not logged any activity on it. Last week(?) or maybe the week before, DFR had an Alert 2 at Love Field, but the red units never keyed up on this TGID. They used the normal DFR response frequencies (and talkgroups).

DA_ARFF DALLAS FIRE 32022

 

[nd5y]

Did the fire stations get trunked radios or stay on 460.575?

 

[KI5IRE]

TGID 32022 is listed on NTIRN as DFR Admin.

However, on the list of talkgroups that was posted, showing most all of Dallas (city) talkgroups, it is listed as ARFF. I have it programmed, but to date, I have not logged any activity on it. Last week(?) or maybe the week before, DFR had an Alert 2 at Love Field, but the red units never keyed up on this TGID. They used the normal DFR response frequencies (and talkgroups).

DA_ARFF DALLAS FIRE 32022

Where's this list at? I have seen it..

 

[KI5IRE]

Did the fire stations get trunked radios or stay on 460.575?

I believe it's patched to the "Station Radio" talkgroup. I believe it's patched because transmissions still do not have a RID listed on them, shows up as "0" on UT.

 

[hiegtx]

Where's this list at? I have seen it..

Check your messages

 

[BenScan]

Just reviewed my logs since I started logging the system back in February, nothing in the clear on 31310.

Anyone seen any talkgroups that could be for DFR ARFF at DAL or RBD? I'm wondering if ARFF will be clear or not and will have dedicated talkgroups...

Has anyone logged any DFR Station 21 RIDs?

Also has anyone seen any TGs/RIDs for the Dallas City Airport department?

Keep an eye/hear on 7010670-7010679 or so. I don't see any significant digital activity thus far. Mostly hits on Dal_Fire 1. The last significant thing I heard was actually on the analog trunked system several months ago during a drill.

 

[riverradio68]

Hyper linked to the Calls platform and filtered there. Here's a thread. Broadcastify Calls and Permitted Talkgroups

Well hey, you educated me on something, I didn't know this. I do now, your a good dude!

Unrelated to the thread at hand, did anyone ever hear how the pursuit/incident in SE Dallas ended in the wooded area with DPS 101, Plano PD, DPD and DSO that played out on DPD SE, GMRS Law Calling and DSO?

Related to the topic, It seems like DFR is still responding to Love like they did on the UHF. I would guess if I had to, there is a lack of dispatchers at city hall to support the additional channels, One can only patch so many channels to a single dispatcher and with the system still in a state of change maybe they are just slow to adopt the new stuff.

Can I get a lit of the TGID's or is all that classified for you elite folks?

 

[Russell]

For DA_ARFF DALLAS FIRE 32022 , I would lean towards ARFF usage. Please let me know what is heard here. There are other subtle differences between the lists I've received.

Thanks,
Russell

 

[KI5IRE]

For DA_ARFF DALLAS FIRE 32022 , I would lean towards ARFF usage. Please let me know what is heard here. There are other subtle differences between the lists I've received.

Thanks,
Russell

Are there multiple lists out there?

Also, Has anyone FOIA’d anyone else besides City of Dallas and Dallas County for their lists on the Dallas side of NTIRN? I’m curious what some of the other cities are. I’m also curious if DFW Airport has any talkgroups on/capable of being patched to this system for interop purposes.

 

[riverradio68]

While they weren't initially supposed to be trucked, they are now. Two channels each site for Dallas Water Utilities only. (Kaufman, Hunt & Wood are treatment plants that serve the city of Dallas. We won't hear Police or Fire off those and they are full TDMA. A few other things we won't hear on the system are Dallas Zoo and Cotton Bowl/Fair Park (Except for DPD State Fair) because those locations are managed by non-city of Dallas companies. I didn't know the Zoo wasn't part of Parks and Rec anymore, but I don't go to the zoo either, Sasquatch lives in the river out my back door. The full set of frequencies for DWU outlying can be found here in case anyone wants to add more than control channels. FCC Callsign WRMF220 (CITY OF DALLAS)

 

[hiegtx]

While they weren't initially supposed to be trucked, they are now. Two channels each site for Dallas Water Utilities only. (Kaufman, Hunt & Wood are treatment plants that serve the city of Dallas. We won't hear Police or Fire off those and they are full TDMA. A few other things we won't hear on the system are Dallas Zoo and Cotton Bowl/Fair Park (Except for DPD State Fair) because those locations are managed by non-city of Dallas companies. I didn't know the Zoo wasn't part of Parks and Rec anymore, but I don't go to the zoo either, Sasquatch lives in the river out my back door. The full set of frequencies for DWU outlying can be found here in case anyone wants to add more than control channels. FCC Callsign WRMF220 (CITY OF DALLAS)

The State Fair channels are DMR. What they used last year is in the database. Once the Fair cranks up, the end of September, I’ll take a listen and see if there are any changes or additions to their channels.

Dallas owns the zoo, but passed day to day operations to the Dallas Zoological Society. There are some DMR licensed frequencies, but I have not spent much time trying to identify the usage patterns.

 

[riverradio68]

The State Fair channels are DMR. What they used last year is in the database. Once the Fair cranks up, the end of September, I’ll take a listen and see if there are any changes or additions to their channels.

Dallas owns the zoo, but passed day to day operations to the Dallas Zoological Society. There are some DMR licensed frequencies, but I have not spent much time trying to identify the usage patterns.

Right, exactly, (What are you doing awake at 2am?) So those two entities are supposed to remain on their DMR systems and not join Dallas, per the radio manager. The security company who works Fair Park is probably on a leased system but I haven't seen any of the system with actual identified security company names. I'm sure there is a lot more commercial use than what we have identified on many of these systems.

 

[AviAdelman]

While they weren't initially supposed to be trucked, they are now. Two channels each site for Dallas Water Utilities only. (Kaufman, Hunt & Wood are treatment plants that serve the city of Dallas. We won't hear Police or Fire off those and they are full TDMA. A few other things we won't hear on the system are Dallas Zoo and Cotton Bowl/Fair Park (Except for DPD State Fair) because those locations are managed by non-city of Dallas companies. I didn't know the Zoo wasn't part of Parks and Rec anymore, but I don't go to the zoo either, Sasquatch lives in the river out my back door. The full set of frequencies for DWU outlying can be found here in case anyone wants to add more than control channels. FCC Callsign WRMF220 (CITY OF DALLAS)

Fair Park and the Cotton Bowl are owned by the City of Dallas but managed by an outside vendor (Spectra??), just like the Zoo, but the City pays the bills (or funding) to a limited value (and earns a profit on it).

The State Fair of Texas (SFOT) leases Fair Park from the City for three months a year (which, btw, is why you can't have long-term pretty things in the park, like exhibits that travel the country). And SFOT won't show their books to anyone (in fact, they sued someone who tried to get them) [jumps off political soapbox]