Darkstar, Crazy and Ace

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nyair1

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226.300 am mode
Darkstar working Crazy and ACE callsigns with "hostiles" up to 32K feet.
Very clear here in Niagara.
226.300 is a freq for the Viper airspace over in the adirondacks area. Usually F-16's from Vermont train over there. I can pass on some other freqs for you to check out when i get home tonite. Love to see what other freqs you have also. Thanks
 
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DaveNF2G

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DARKSTAR is a call used by the Canadian side of NORAD, a counterpart to HUNTRESS. It is unlikely that a Canadian listener west of Buffalo is hearing Viper airspace traffic.
 

nodak1crdet3

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DARKSTAR is a call used by the Canadian side of NORAD, a counterpart to HUNTRESS. It is unlikely that a Canadian listener west of Buffalo is hearing Viper airspace traffic.

Hi David,
DARKSTAR is the call sign used by the back end of the E-3 Sentry AWACS out of Tinker AFB OK. I believe your thinking of SIDECAR for the Canadian version of HUNTRESS / NORAD.
 
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DaveNF2G

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Ah, yes, my mistake. You are right. I was thinking of DRAGNET for the AWACS and forgot about DARKSTAR also being theirs.
 

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Sitting at the beach in NYC with my Pro-106 in search, heard pilots (?) talking about "doing 3 k but I don't want to end up in the ocean" on 140.175 and then another reading out descending altitude down to 3500; some other chatter on 140.2 am. Just starting to get into milcoms so I don't know what I'm hearing.
 

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Sitting at the beach in NYC with my Pro-106 in search, heard pilots (?) talking about "doing 3 k but I don't want to end up in the ocean" on 140.175 and then another reading out descending altitude down to 3500; some other chatter on 140.2 am. Just starting to get into milcoms so I don't know what I'm hearing.
You're hearing what's known as the "interplane" channel used by a flight of (assumably military) aircraft. Usually a lot of BS'ing but also some important comms between themselves. They can then use the normal 225-400MHz band for official comms with their controllers -- ATC, AWACS, NORAD, etc.

138-144 & 148-150.8MHz is the spectrum to check for this sort of stuff, AM mode & in 25kHz steps. In some situations where they might be communicating via secure means on 225-400Mhz, by habit, they sometimes continue to talk in non-secure mode on their VHF channel. Keep in mind this spectrum is also used in FM or P-25 mode (12.5kHz steps) for US military & federal government land mobile radio nets, though depending on where you live, the only usual agency you might hear in FM/P-25 mode is the USAF's Civil Air Patrol. You can also hear a satellite on about 150.00MHz.
 
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