thanks, mike for steering me straight. let me expand a little on the reason I ran into this c1 problem. there are probably not very many 800 out here in the field every night, much less any driver that can even begin to work one. so when the MA layer goes down I run around stuffing my pockets. the MA goes down more often than the old 800 Houston system, but that is what happened, so I could only get that C 1 channel on the 197 on the 700 digital .