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Re: Can anyone local program a set of Jaguar 700P radios?

Many members of this forum may recall a local man by the name of Dave Triska, and his legal woes. This man was a hobbyist, and was charged with felonies simply for offering programming of an EDACS radio.

I'll dispense a little unwanted advice. As you proclaim to be a member of Aurora Fire Explorers, you may want to consider getting the radios programmed in a legit manner. But if you do not, I would rather not hear anything about them here.

As someone said in a previous post of yours, "Recklessness is killing this hobby."


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From a different case in 2001 -

"Denver's teenage hacker bought a surplus radio that was once used at the city's airport and reprogrammed it to duplicate a valid police radio ID using software possibly purchased on eBay, said Gary Pasicznyk, electronic technician supervisor with the Denver Police Department.

The boy used the radio to chat with a police helicopter pilot and to call in false accident reports. At least once, police sent cars to assist an officer in distress, only to find there was no such officer, Pasicznyk said. The boy would also “drive around his neighborhood and attempt to call in license plates,”he said.

Police located the hacker by letting him continue to transmit on the stolen ID, moving the legitimate radio off that ID to avoid confusion. “We were able to partition that ID and put him on one select frequency,” Pasicznyk said. “That way, we were able to use direction-finding equipment to locate the suspect and, further, arrest him and find his programming software.”

Denver's 800 MHz trunked system employs M/A-COM's Enhanced Digital Access Communications System (EDACS) technology. To avert future attacks and gain other security advantages, the police are phasing in M/A-COM's EDACS Security Key technology, Pasicznyk said."
 

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Publicy requesting assistance for rogue programming of equipment is not very bright.

I don't think this will help roofie get into the police or fire academy either.

This kind of reckless behaviour helps re-inforce M/A Com's push to ESK all the area systems. Aurora is already using crypto on certain groups because of "uninvited listeners".

All it takes is an idiot or two to screw it up for the rest of us.

Phil.
 

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Just chill guys. Maybe this guy is new and he doesn't know how all this programming stuff is screwing everything up.
 

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All I am doing is what everyone on here is doing, monitoring. I never said anything about transmitting on any frequency what so ever. I know all about the Denver kid and I know that has made everyone careful. From talking with some groups of people, using a radio to monitor systems is not illegal my any means, as long as it does not transmit or violate anyones policies. The only agencies I can think of right now that it is illegal to monitor their systems is Aurora Police and any encrypted frequency. Personally, as I have said in other posts, I hate scanners. I started out with one, then hated it as time went on because of their lack of durability. M/A Com makes very high quality products in my opinion which is why I choose to buy from them. Just a reminder, you should not make judgements unless you can confirm that what you are saying is true. Just something to keep in mind...
 

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Hi Jordan,

The point is not just legality.

When they get ammo to push an upgrade like ESK, it does not affect just those monitoring on transcievers, it affects EVERYONE. All current and soon-to-be-released scanning receivers will be rendered unusable on Denver and possibly other systems linked in.

I like to post things I have confirmed. I'll tell you what I can confirm.

ESK won't be hard to do.

-Denver is already planning the transition into some major upgrades.

-Encrypted ProVoice is already in use on the P/S system.

-The probable upgrade to simulcast is coming, as is the 800 rebanding.

-They have already OTA killed almost all legit Media/Public radios they had programmed.

-EEB has STATED that they intend to use it.

How many more excuses do they need? Just one more poorly programmed "monitor-only" radio?

This isn't just about you Jordan, I just picked on you. I see IDs on all the metro systems that are almost certainly from some homebrew scanner that still affilites.

Do what you want, but be careful out there and remember HB 04-1003.
 

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As the saying goes "It isn't illegal until you get caught".

A word of advice don't go publicly bragging about your "real radio".

Denver's attitude is such that they will string you up if you are contacted for any reason and you have a radio with their system in it and there's no record of authorized programming with the EEB.

Aurora's may be the same or definately heading there.

Your attitude about scanners will abrutly change when you will need to use Etrunker with a computer controlled Uniden scanner once they start ESK on the EDACS systems in the area.

Don't become a headline.

Phil.
 

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Sheesh you guys. Why even have RR and a Colorado forum if you cannot post anything on here without getting bashed somehow, by someone. Its pointless. I was not asking for any of your opinons in my original post, I was simply asking for something that you did not agree with. Maybe you should think about minding your business. None of you, except one person on this forum, has ever seen one of my radios. Not one channel on ANY of the radios will log-onto their system, transmit, etc. I could really care less about what you have to say, but just w word of simple advice. Duh :roll: :evil:
 

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Message posting 101 reads:

Post something open public and you ARE at the mercy of the public.

So if you don't want the rath of the public then don't post things you know WILL inflict the rath of the public.

I've had more than my share of it for the past 25 years.

The victim card does not work either.

I'm done here.

End Of Line.
 

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Re: Can anyone local program a set of Jaguar 700P radios?

RF-Intel said:
Many members of this forum may recall a local man by the name of Dave Triska, and his legal woes. This man was a hobbyist, and was charged with felonies simply for offering programming of an EDACS radio.

I'll dispense a little unwanted advice. As you proclaim to be a member of Aurora Fire Explorers, you may want to consider getting the radios programmed in a legit manner. But if you do not, I would rather not hear anything about them here.

As someone said in a previous post of yours, "Recklessness is killing this hobby."


MRT Magazine said:
From a different case in 2001 -

"Denver's teenage hacker bought a surplus radio that was once used at the city's airport and reprogrammed it to duplicate a valid police radio ID using software possibly purchased on eBay, said Gary Pasicznyk, electronic technician supervisor with the Denver Police Department.

The boy used the radio to chat with a police helicopter pilot and to call in false accident reports. At least once, police sent cars to assist an officer in distress, only to find there was no such officer, Pasicznyk said. The boy would also “drive around his neighborhood and attempt to call in license plates,”he said.

Police located the hacker by letting him continue to transmit on the stolen ID, moving the legitimate radio off that ID to avoid confusion. “We were able to partition that ID and put him on one select frequency,” Pasicznyk said. “That way, we were able to use direction-finding equipment to locate the suspect and, further, arrest him and find his programming software.”

Denver's 800 MHz trunked system employs M/A-COM's Enhanced Digital Access Communications System (EDACS) technology. To avert future attacks and gain other security advantages, the police are phasing in M/A-COM's EDACS Security Key technology, Pasicznyk said."

There is a little more to this story on how he was nabed and how he was taken down I know I was the one who helped bust him. And the worst thing is that he never learned his lession.
 

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Re: Can anyone local program a set of Jaguar 700P radios?

mhaynes41 said:
<SNIP - Quote about Dave Triska and the 16 year-old punk>

There is a little more to this story on how he was nabed and how he was taken down I know I was the one who helped bust him. And the worst thing is that he never learned his lession.

Are you referring to Triska or the Misguided Youth?
I'd be interested to know more either way, if you can tell!
 

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Re: Can anyone local program a set of Jaguar 700P radios?

RF-Intel said:
mhaynes41 said:
<SNIP - Quote about Dave Triska and the 16 year-old punk>

There is a little more to this story on how he was nabed and how he was taken down I know I was the one who helped bust him. And the worst thing is that he never learned his lession.

Are you referring to Triska or the Misguided Youth?
I'd be interested to know more either way, if you can tell!

The misguided youth who at the time was 16.
 
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