• To anyone looking to acquire commercial radio programming software:

    Please do not make requests for copies of radio programming software which is sold (or was sold) by the manufacturer for any monetary value. All requests will be deleted and a forum infraction issued. Making a request such as this is attempting to engage in software piracy and this forum cannot be involved or associated with this activity. The same goes for any private transaction via Private Message. Even if you attempt to engage in this activity in PM's we will still enforce the forum rules. Your PM's are not private and the administration has the right to read them if there's a hint to criminal activity.

    If you are having trouble legally obtaining software please state so. We do not want any hurt feelings when your vague post is mistaken for a free request. It is YOUR responsibility to properly word your request.

    To obtain Motorola software see the Sticky in the Motorola forum.

    The various other vendors often permit their dealers to sell the software online (i.e., Kenwood). Please use Google or some other search engine to find a dealer that sells the software. Typically each series or individual radio requires its own software package. Often the Kenwood software is less than $100 so don't be a cheapskate; just purchase it.

    For M/A Com/Harris/GE, etc: there are two software packages that program all current and past radios. One package is for conventional programming and the other for trunked programming. The trunked package is in upwards of $2,500. The conventional package is more reasonable though is still several hundred dollars. The benefit is you do not need multiple versions for each radio (unlike Motorola).

    This is a large and very visible forum. We cannot jeopardize the ability to provide the RadioReference services by allowing this activity to occur. Please respect this.

Determining LCN numbers on a BCD396T

Status
Not open for further replies.

Kirk

DB Admin
Database Admin
Joined
Dec 19, 2002
Messages
785
I'm a total novice at LTR decoding, but have decided to give it a try. I read that if you program the same frequency into each of the LCN positions (1-20) and then go into ID search mode, the # it stops on will be the LCN position for that frequency.

I've looked at the FCC data for a particular name, and I'm showing about a half dozen LTR freqs for the same site. I put one frequency into 20 systems in each of the 1-20 LCN positions, and start scanning. I find traffic on 464.275 on group LTR Test 5. I listen a while, and log only hits on the system with the frequency in position 5.

So I go to the next one. This one shows hits on LTR Test 3, 11, 15 and 7. Uh... Most of them were on 3, so maybe some anomaly?

The next frequency shows even more puzzling results. The frequency log on BCT396T Advanced Scanner Control shows a DIFFERENT frequency than is actually in the radio.

Does this make sense? Do I need to forget it, do a discriminator tap, get a DOS box, software, slicer and go that route, or am I on to something?
 

pro92b

Mutated Member
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Jun 27, 2002
Messages
1,969
I read that if you program the same frequency into each of the LCN positions (1-20) and then go into ID search mode, the # it stops on will be the LCN position for that frequency.
Not necessarily. If two users homed to the same LCN use the system at the same time, you may erroneously pick up the LCN of the overflow channel rather than the home channel. To reduce the odds of this happening, choose a time when the system is not busy and check the log for LCN hits. One of the LCN's should have many more hits than the others and that is the one you want.

Each time you identify an LCN, take it out of the rotation for testing the next frequency. Things should get easier with each new LCN identified.
 
Joined
Jan 2, 2003
Messages
996
Location
Ohio
As an example 0-03-201 will alwasy appear on LCN 3 unless LCN 3 gets busy so it might appear on another frequency within that system.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top