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Digital voice on GMRS
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mmckenna
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Is that original digital square wave, sine wave or just a simple wave?
mmckenna
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No, Queen Wave.
CaptDan
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Well that's why you have a standard, set by the FCC, just like you have standard emission types for CB, MURS, and almost every other service in existence. No different than dPMR, across the pond. The FCC absolutely would not make GMRS a playground for any type of digital mode you want. I can almost guarantee that, even with the FCC's stupidity.
Everyone has been caught up on this interoperability nonsense for 13 pages. There is a set standard. All radio manufacturers abide by that set standard. End of story. Now you have your interoperability. Those who want to use digital can. Those who want to use analog can. Everybody is happy.
Repeaters already exist, to an extent. Linking? Not so much. I have seen a couple repeaters out there, but not many. I could absolutely see ISM replacing the current handheld bubble pack FRS/GMRS, if they were priced reasonably. The old Tri-Square radios, or whatever the hell they were called, used to be the closest thing. I think they were about $25 a piece at one point. But people are stupid. You buy one of those expecting to talk to the bubble pack radios your friends bought (FRS), find out you can't, and back to the store the radio goes. It is unfortunate.
Personally, if I'm out with a group of random folks (off roading, or boating, or such like the trip I mentioned previously), I pretty much have to use GMRS, because that's what everybody owns. I would use my DTR all day long if other people actually had them. They are fantastic radios.
NC1
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Maybe digital should be implemented on MURS, but no repeaters, and a 35W limit. 5 channels should be plenty of room.
How about only the 3 lower channels that are already narrow band?
How about only the 3 lower channels that are already narrow band?
nd5y
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Some digital modes are allowed.
Electronic Code of Federal Regulations (eCFR)
Electronic Code of Federal Regulations (eCFR) published by the Government Publishing Office
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This thread is a pretty entertaining read.
That being said, GMRS certainly appears to be written in an attempt to stupid proof the service, including power levels below those requiring an RF exposure evaluation.
That being said, I would think the biggest issue allowing digital would be to open equipment to all Part 90 equipment, which would put more trust in the users by the federal coin collectors. As it is now, the list isn't nearly big enough for GMRS equipment, imo.
The other problem I would see is putting a "preference" on which data modes are allowed. I would think it would have to be an all or none situation. It's not like a telecom bidding on the spectrum that can put whatever proprietary emission mode in that they choose, because they bought it from the FCC.
BTW, I can really get behind @mmckenna and his sense of humor.
That being said, GMRS certainly appears to be written in an attempt to stupid proof the service, including power levels below those requiring an RF exposure evaluation.
That being said, I would think the biggest issue allowing digital would be to open equipment to all Part 90 equipment, which would put more trust in the users by the federal coin collectors. As it is now, the list isn't nearly big enough for GMRS equipment, imo.
The other problem I would see is putting a "preference" on which data modes are allowed. I would think it would have to be an all or none situation. It's not like a telecom bidding on the spectrum that can put whatever proprietary emission mode in that they choose, because they bought it from the FCC.
BTW, I can really get behind @mmckenna and his sense of humor.
If you check those emission types there are several that are digital data, but none of them are digital voice.
CaptDan
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Radioddity makes a hand held radio, GD-77 that they advertise as
"...GD-77 DMR two way radio has both Tier I & II and is compatible with Motorola and other DMR radios. Official Certification: FCC ID: 2AN62-GD77; CE ID: AGC10624170902ES01..."
This a dual band radio and is capable, not necessarily legally, operating in FRS/GMRS and MURS in a digital mode, along with - if I am even allowed to say that "E" word in here.
So the equipment is out there, just a matter of time before it's being used - most likely illegally - on FRS/GMRS and MURS.
"...GD-77 DMR two way radio has both Tier I & II and is compatible with Motorola and other DMR radios. Official Certification: FCC ID: 2AN62-GD77; CE ID: AGC10624170902ES01..."
This a dual band radio and is capable, not necessarily legally, operating in FRS/GMRS and MURS in a digital mode, along with - if I am even allowed to say that "E" word in here.
So the equipment is out there, just a matter of time before it's being used - most likely illegally - on FRS/GMRS and MURS.
There is an abundance of DMR Part 90 equipment available the could work in wither GMRS or MURS.
NC1
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With FRS, you would probably not be noticed, using MURS there could be a slight possibility of being caught (maybe). On GMRS there's enough people out there to piss off who can and will find you which could result in being given a blanket party (with more if you didn't learn the first time). And then there is the possibility of the FCC taking everything electronic out of your house all the way down to your clock radio, with massive fines to follow.
On the other hand, if you follow the rules you can have what you want by using the correct service without worry.
amphibian
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Make it Hellschreiber and I'll pay $500 for a license!
mmckenna
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No. $35 for ten years, which hams will still complain about. And no Hellschreiber, only pure digital CW, as ol' Sammy Morse intended!
I'm not a ham and I want Hellschreiber for my ADA disability. Just say no to Vibroplex bugs.
mmckenna
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Keep this up, and I'll change it to spark gap transmitters only.
Make it a real challenge and use Open Sky.
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