Disneyland Resort Cap+ System Deprecated?

[mcjones2013]

Hello all!

I see that the Disneyland Resort Capacity Plus system was marked deprecated in the database. I know that Walt Disney World's system has been replaced by some sort of in-house LTE system. Is the same true for Disneyland Resort? Is the Capacity Plus system completely off-air now? I'll take it out of my programming if so.

Thanks,
Michael

 

[mtindor]

Hello all!

I see that the Disneyland Resort Capacity Plus system was marked deprecated in the database. I know that Walt Disney World's system has been replaced by some sort of in-house LTE system. Is the same true for Disneyland Resort? Is the Capacity Plus system completely off-air now? I'll take it out of my programming if so.

Thanks,
Michael

<snip> I don't have the answer. I thought you were an admin and was going to suggest that you check the submissions for that system to see if anyone submitted something to indicate it was no longer in use.

Mike

 

[mcjones2013]

I thought you were an admin

If someone wants to nudge the powers to be, I'll gladly take on the role.

But no, I'm not. I just hadn't seen any discussion in the CA forums about the DLR system recently and saw it had been deprecated this month.

 

[mcjones2013]

Also I meant for this to be in the Los Angeles sub-forum, not the statewide forum. My bad.

 

[KB6AMF]

I can't imagine they would just let it go, and I would be curious to see what they have have replaced it with.

 

[Mikek]

Control channels were still active about a month ago… I will recheck and post here when I’m back in town

 

[motobot213]

Disneyland went to a Capacity Max system (DMR Tir3). Cap plus system no longer in use.

 

[Randyk4661]

I am seeing several T3 frequencies doing a search. An FCC search for 938.425 (something I am receiving) shows it to belong to Walt Disney company but also shows it as expired. The deprecated DMR is off the air as I am not getting anything anymore. I am about 2 miles from Disneyland and could hear it before.

 

[MtnBiker2005]

FCC Callsign: WQFF241 (Disneyland Resort (A Division of Walt Disney Parks and Resorts U.S., Inc.))
Status: Active
Grant: 04/23/2016
Effective: 11/03/2018
Expiration: 06/29/2026
10 Frequencies for Location 1
- FB2C -
938.3875
938.4000
938.4125
938.4250
938.4375
938.4500
938.4625
938.4750
938.4875
938.5000
https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/license.jsp?licKey=2823727
https://www.radioreference.com/db/fcc/callsign/WQFF241


FCC Callsigns within 0.5 Miles of N 33.81197 W -117.91894 (Disneyland)
https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?action=fccProx&lat=33.81197&lon=-117.91894&r=0.5

 

[W6VVM]

I am seeing several T3 frequencies doing a search. An FCC search for 938.425 (something I am receiving) shows it to belong to Walt Disney company but also shows it as expired. The deprecated DMR is off the air as I am not getting anything anymore. I am about 2 miles from Disneyland and could hear it before.

You used to be able to hear their DMR traffic in the clear?

 

[mcjones2013]

You used to be able to hear their DMR traffic in the clear?

I'm going to assume by "hear", he meant "receive".

Speaking for myself, I'm as much into system analysis/mapping as I am voice listening. I was unable to receive any voice traffic on the Cap+ system with the exception of some occasional All Call traffic the last time I visited.

 

[Randyk4661]

I'm going to assume by "hear", he meant "receive".

Speaking for myself, I'm as much into system analysis/mapping as I am voice listening. I was unable to receive any voice traffic on the Cap+ system with the exception of some occasional All Call traffic the last time I visited.

That is correct, receive. You can still hear the frequencies even though they are encrypted.

FCC Callsign: WQFF241 (Disneyland Resort (A Division of Walt Disney Parks and Resorts U.S., Inc.))
Status: Active
Grant: 04/23/2016
Effective: 11/03/2018
Expiration: 06/29/2026
10 Frequencies for Location 1
- FB2C -
938.3875
938.4000
938.4125
938.4250
938.4375
938.4500
938.4625
938.4750
938.4875
938.5000
https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/license.jsp?licKey=2823727
https://www.radioreference.com/db/fcc/callsign/WQFF241


FCC Callsigns within 0.5 Miles of N 33.81197 W -117.91894 (Disneyland)
https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?action=fccProx&lat=33.81197&lon=-117.91894&r=0.5

I'm well aware of those frequencies, I'm talking about these,(Tentative only)
935.5125
935.5250
935.5375
935.5500
935.5625
935.5750
935.6125
These are all DMR tier III with a color code of 3, and matching signal strength on the SDR, just like the 938 channels.
None of these are licenesed to the Walt Disney Co.

If anyone can ID these as not being Disneyland I will cross them off of my list.
Knowing the frequencies aren't going to help anyway as they are still encrypted.

 

[LAflyer]

Might be part of this unidentified Tier-III system heard in LA County. Suppose could be Anaheim/OC depending on signal strength.

Disneyland Trunking System, Anaheim, California

Disneyland Trunking System Profile

www.radioreference.com

 

[Randyk4661]

The talkgroup ID's somewhat line up with the older DLR system. Is it possible to throw a switch and change the DMR to a tier III without doing much reprogramming? Maybe I should do a drive around the resort get some McDonalds with close call turned on and get confirmation if any are used.

 

[mcjones2013]

close call turned on and get confirmation if any are used.

DMR and Close Call don't like to cooperate. I'd recommend programming in a custom search bank 935.0 MHz to 940.0 MHz and getting close enough where you can get the signal without the antenna on.

 

[MtnBiker2005]

What Radio IDs being seen on the tier III system(s) ?

 

[Randyk4661]

I've seen 83, 84, 34,30,36,144, 107,147

I think we can say these two systems are together. I just got the same radio ID# on TG36 using both a 935 & 938 frequency.

 

[MtnBiker2005]

Those looks like Talkgroup IDs.

What Radio IDs did you see on TG36 and other talkgroups?

 

[Randyk4661]

All the radio ID's I was getting was 5####. I will get some actual ID's later and post them here.

 

[Randyk4661]

This is what I have so far for the DLR.

935.5125 LCN 41 _____ 938.3875 LCN 271
935.5250 LCN 42 _____ 938.4000 LCN 272
935.5375 LCN 43 _____ 938.4125 LCN 273
935.5500 LCN 44 _____ 938.4250 LCN 274 Control Channel (Using LCN 0)
935.5625 LCN 45 _____ 938.4375 LCN 275
935.5750 LCN 46 _____ 938.4500 LCN 276
938.4625 LCN 277
938.4750 LCN 278 No radio traffic seen or heard on this channel
938.4875 LCN 279
938.5000 LCN 280 No radio traffic seen or heard on this channel

Color code 3
Talk groups are low numbers, 1 to 255.
Radio Id's are mostly in the 5#### sequencing, One ID of 61009 seen. Two ID's 70039 & 70037 also seen. One radio ID of 23 (not a typo) has been seen several times.