DMR findings in the Ottawa area

DaveH

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460.6625 is low-power multi-user. TG 102 doesn't fit St. Laurent (10,20,30...), probably something else (could even have the same Colour Code).

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Hearing some voice activity on 150.1400 DMR conventional DCC=1, TG=1000, TS=1, french, mainly east end
of Ottawa, can't make out the content too well.

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It is busy with french comms
DMR BS DCC:1

CTM LIMITÃE
CUMBERLAND, ONTARIO(FRENCH HILL)
TX: 150.14 MHz
RX: 159.075 MHz
Antenna Height: 95 m
Licence: 010372893-001
CoE: 11K0F3EJN

45.502778,-75.378056
Distance: 26.55 km
Bearing: 71°

DMR, 0, 1000, 102, 50, Normal, 2, 2019/02/24 15:59, ""
DMR, 0, 1000, 103, 50, Normal, 3, 2019/02/24 16:07, ""
DMR, 0, 1000, 104, 50, Normal, 1, 2019/02/24 16:00, ""
DMR, 0, 1000, 105, 50, Normal, 1, 2019/02/24 16:02, ""
DMR, 0, 1000, 109, 50, Normal, 4, 2019/02/24 16:00, ""
DMR, 0, 1000, 118, 50, Normal, 11, 2019/02/24 16:04, ""
DMR, 0, 1000, 135, 50, Normal, 1, 2019/02/24 16:02, ""
DMR, 0, 1000, 144, 50, Normal, 2, 2019/02/24 16:06, ""
DMR, 0, 1000, 148, 50, Normal, 14, 2019/02/24 16:04, ""
 

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Interesting. Heard reference to "parking" and "parking lots", some sort of clearing, or parking enforcement? Wonder why they need locations on their mobiles.

Also reference to Bilberry (Orleans) and Centrum (Kanata) among other locations, which jives somewhat with the map i.e. all over Ottawa and beyond.

Voice was on TS 1 (mostly), data on TS 2 but one exception seen.

Screenshot below but does not show location data. Update time approx. every 1.5~2 minutes.

Dave

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Still working on a few lcn's but the CTM UHF Cap+ system in Gatineau mentioned above has 454.325 as LCN 1
Site ID 0001 CC1
Here is what I have logged for that site, I assume these are still correct:
; CTM CAP+ CC1 10 Wellington Single site
Cap+, 1111, 1, 1, 454.3260, 0.0, 0,
Cap+, 1111, 1, 3, 461.9500, 0.0, 0,
Cap+, 1111, 1, 5, 463.4000, 0.0, 0,
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Dave, even if LLRP is not running, my event log is showing the GPS locations.
Don't know why you do not see this info.

My version is DSDPlus ver. 2.165
 

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Here is what I have logged for that site, I assume these are still correct:
; CTM CAP+ CC1 10 Wellington Single site
Cap+, 1111, 1, 1, 454.3260, 0.0, 0,
Cap+, 1111, 1, 3, 461.9500, 0.0, 0,
Cap+, 1111, 1, 5, 463.4000, 0.0, 0,
;
Is it safe to say that this can be put into the database now?

Caught tg 43 on the Rock Networks site 1
So there is activity there now.
422.2625 LCN 1 CC4
Is this one good to be put into the database as well?
 

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Just noticed a 164.460 DMR Never noticed this active until now....

164.460 DMR 201-8 DCC-2 NL- 1 3 4 5 6

TAFL reports- TURRIS COMMUNICATIONS LTD.TOWER C- BRONSON

This interferes with my data files for site 201-8 UHF [Had to rem out the info but never listen to 201-8 UHF]
 

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Just noticed a 164.460 DMR Never noticed this active until now....

164.460 DMR 201-8 DCC-2 NL- 1 3 4 5 6

TAFL reports- TURRIS COMMUNICATIONS LTD.TOWER C- BRONSON

This interferes with my data files for site 201-8 UHF [Had to rem out the info but never listen to 201-8 UHF]
Interesting...this looks like Turris extending its VHF Renfrew Cty. system eastward. This must have just started up as I did a sweep over that part of the band a couple of days ago and didn't hear it.

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Interesting...this looks like Turris extending its VHF Renfrew Cty. system eastward. This must have just started up as I did a sweep over that part of the band a couple of days ago and didn't hear it.

Dave
Interesting yes.
I don't hear it though. Any active talkgroups that are on that system are listed in the database already. I have not seen any other users on this system other then the few other talkgroups that I have heard less then a handful of times and basically never again. The ones listed are active almost daily.

However. With that said. I have heard sunshine coach service from Renfrew state they were at a drop off point in Ottawa one time with a customer. I believe it was at a hospital for an appointment or something. I believe they mentioned the civic hospital if I remember correctly.

So now that this particular site has now been found perhaps that would be needed for this particular user to still be able to use the system effectively for them. Renfrew site would be too far for them to communicate back to there base from Ottawa. So an Ottawa affiliate site would be needed.

Would the Bronson site still not be still too far though to communicate with the renfrew site though and the rest of the system? Or is there still yet another site in between to make that link? Site 7 perhaps? With Bronson being Site 8.

Any possibilities from the Place De Ville or Moodie Dr sites listed here that could also be part of this system as well?

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What gets me though is, if they (Sunshine Coach) needed wide area coverage why not just go with the UHF system (Ottawa towers already in place and sufficient coverage in Renfrew County) and the opposite for Township of Admaston-Bromley who don't need such wide area coverage they would've been fine on the VHF system instead of being on the UHF system.
 
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Meanwhile looking east...

In TAFL I notice that Turris has licensed 143.550, 163.275, and 163.575 for DMR across several sites: Wendover, Casselman, Alfred, St.-Isidore, Vankleek Hill, Hawkesbury, and Rockland.

Wonder if fire service(s) will be on this system once it gets going; or other county services, possibly mixed with commercial users?

Dave
 
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