DMR listening

Fouineux69

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Hi!

I listen a DMR commercial radio system for a while now with a SDR and openears. I own a TYT DMR radio for ham use (I'm licensed ham). I don't have any problem listening with my computer but not with my md380uv.

Anyone here can explain me how it works, I mean.. Can I retrieve CC and time slot with openears or something? I programmed my md380uv on the right frequency, what I think the right CC (1), I tried two time slot.. the radio flash in green when they speak but nothing from the speaker..

Thanks a lot!
 

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If it lights green then it is receiving as it should but the TG could be wrong, do you have promiscous mode enabled, or the system might be using RAS.

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Fouineux69

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Don't know promiscous mode in my tyt380uv.. and don't know either on ras mode.. What i know, I'm able to hear it with a sdr and openears without flaws
 

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Try DSD+ and it will show RAS at the bottom of the screen if the system uses it. Then it will not work if monitoring with a DMR radio.

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Hi!

I listen a DMR commercial radio system for a while now with a SDR and openears. I own a TYT DMR radio for ham use (I'm licensed ham). I don't have any problem listening with my computer but not with my md380uv.
I'am a licensed ham radio operator as well.
The fact you are able to listen with your computer means that DSD+ decodes and displays TG, CC and TS correctly, as well as wether the communication is a group call (voice) or data transmission (usually the GPS position of any mobile/handheld units).

Anyone here can explain me how it works, I mean.. Can I retrieve CC and time slot with openears or something? I programmed my md380uv on the right frequency, what I think the right CC (1), I tried two time slot.. the radio flash in green when they speak but nothing from the speaker..
I have a TYT MD380, re-flashed with MD380 Toolz, a modified firmware which allows to activate the so-called Promiscuous Mode, so that there is no need to know any TG.
The MD-UV380 is a different piece of hardware, though...
Try looking at the settings of your radio first, otherwise a modified firmware for that model might be available, too.
 

Fouineux69

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Thank you for your reply, I'll try to buy a md380 for flashing the firmware.. but does the md380 vhf is always available?
 

Valeriy

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Thank you for your reply, I'll try to buy a md380 for flashing the firmware.. but does the md380 vhf is always available?
What I wanted to mean is to check wether your MD-UV380 supports the Promiscuous Mode as a native function in its original firmware or not, because that is a normal feature for recent models of dual band DMR transceivers.

I still use the MD-380 because I have one, but if you will decide to purchase another DMR transceiver, it's better to choose a newer model than the monoband MD-380, of course...
The Radioddity GD-77 with modified firmware has became what the MD-380 used to be years ago, and there are even better models such as the AnyTone radios, yet a bit less cheap.
However try to learn all the features of your MD-UV380 first.
 
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I would personally advice against getting any dual band DMR radio, if you don't have perfect RF conditions with low interference levels. Almost all dualbands use a direct conversation receiver that have worse perfomance than a MD380 that use a normal super heterodyn receiver that are one of the best cheap receivers I have encountered that can take any kind of signal enviroment without protesting. I have one direct conversion DMR radio, a BelFone with Connect Systems software called CS580 and reception is terrible even with the low signal levels I have. I only use it to scan some analog FRS/GMRS type of frequencies and for the more important DMR systems I use the MD380.

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I would personally advice against getting any dual band DMR radio, if you don't have perfect RF conditions with low interference levels. Almost all dualbands use a direct conversation receiver that have worse perfomance than a MD380 that use a normal super heterodyn receiver that are one of the best cheap receivers I have encountered that can take any kind of signal enviroment without protesting.
Well, good to know that.
However I just read recensions by GD-77 owners which state that it is quite sensitive as a receiver, and the community-developed firmware allows to use it as an equivalent of a digital scanner (I don't know if I'll be able to fix my half-deaf 436, so I'm also looking around for a cheaper alternative).
Although many agencies/services here are in VHF, either in DMR and analogue FM mode, with the MD-380 there is the need for two radios in order to have V and U reception, so I think a good dual band might be of more practical use...
 
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