DMR Release and Last Chance for $50

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DMR reception is still very poor for me on the 436 but I guess no one wants to hear that.... I'll probably get censored again for saying negative things but I'm also seeing poor backlight on squelch performance - even on older Motorola and P25 systems. The reception of a nearby smaller 800Mhz P25 system doesn't seem to be as good as in the past either.

I did find this post interesting----
 

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I was disappointed with 900Mhz performance when I first did the upgrade on Friday. I have to fairly large MotoTrbo trunk networks in my area and they weren't working as well as my DSD+ set up.

I've done some adjusting of the settings, set "Avoid" on sites that aren't close to my location, and tweaked the digital threshold settings a bit, with significant improvement. I also changed the system hold settings (per site hold would be a nice feature) and that helped as well.

I've not experienced the bad UHF reception that others have complained about, so I can't really speak to that.

700 Mhz P25 reception is about the same, maybe with very slight improvement.

My backlight on squelch is the same as before.

I don't think it's that people don't want to hear your complaints as much as some (maybe most) people don't have the same experience.

I have yet to hear my town's DPW on it's simplex VHF DMR frequency, but it's not usually that busy anyway, so I'm not concerned. I'll get plenty of listening in during the winter when they are out plowing. :(

DMR reception is still very poor for me on the 436 but I guess no one wants to hear that.... I'll probably get censored again for saying negative things but I'm also seeing poor backlight on squelch performance - even on older Motorola and P25 systems. The reception of a nearby smaller 800Mhz P25 system doesn't seem to be as good as in the past either.

I did find this post interesting----
 

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I don't think it's that people don't want to hear your complaints as much as some (maybe most) people don't have the same experience.

I get that - the problem is people here act like if you report a problem THEY aren't having, it must be YOUR problem and you don't know what you are doing.

I am not new at this and I see people having problems all the time that I don't have and always try to support and help when and where I can. However, some act like only the only problems that matter are the ones that THEY report. I believe ALL problems matter and they only way they get fixed is if/when we report them.
 

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Sorry to say that CAP+ RAS is still not working for the system down here in Tucson. The problem seems to be unchanged. Does not follow conversations as they move from one frequency to another. If the voice activity stays on the same LCN pair (i.e. 1/2, 3/4, 5/6, etc) then it seems to catch most of the conversation. But when the conversation moves to another LCN pair (i.e. 1/2 to 5/6) then the conversation is lost. If the conversation continues on, unbeknownst to the scanner, it sometimes picks up the conversation in mid-flow on a different LCN pair. Hearing occasional activity does not mean that CAP+ is good for me, at least.

I so want this to work. I'm being told from another that the competitor's scanner is able to keep up. I am hoping to compare side by side with him to "hear" for myself :)
 

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the problem is people here act like if you report a problem THEY aren't having, it must be YOUR problem and you don't know what you are doing.

Let's use an example from this very series of threads (the DMR upgrade public tests).

Over the course of four public previews, four more release candidates, and one public release, how many people insisted that the passwords in the zipfiles weren't working at all no matter what they tried, and/or that the firmware file was not 'opening correctly on their computer' or not updating their scanner when they put it into the firmware folder? Were any of them correct in saying that there was a genuine problem with either the zipfiles or the firmware files? (spoiler alert: the answer is no)

The overwhelming majority of the time, the problems announced on RR involve people doing things incorrectly or expecting something to work when they have missed an important step (another case in point: complaining that their radio doesn't receive police at all - solution - turn on the 'law dispatch' service class).

I do concede that bearcat may have found something that definitely affects reception in SOME BUT NOT ALL radios. However, to turn your quote above around on you, just because you are experiencing an issue doesn't mean that everyone is, and/or that it isn't something unique to your own circumstances. It's just as likely that the reason someone isn't picking up a particular signal is the TV station transmitter two doors down from their house as it is that the radio has a defect.
 

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However, to turn your quote above around on you, just because you are experiencing an issue doesn't mean that everyone is, and/or that it isn't something unique to your own circumstances..

...and just because I posted I was having issues, I have NEVER implicitly or explicitly indicated that the issues I'm seeing was everyone's problem. In fact, as I said, many people report issues (regardless of vendor) in these forums ... and I've never said "I'm not having that problem so it must be you". Sometimes it might be that people are reading the user manual and still other times it's just that what is working for others doesn't work for all of us - that doesn't mean it's not a problem.
 

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DMR Close Call

Haven't been able to keep up with the flurry of DMR upgrade stuff, but has this been implemented with close call? I don't seem to have much luck getting the 436 to pick up DMR activity using close-call...again, sorry if this is a redundant question...
 

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I am hoping to get the DMR Release firmware up and running while still in the Cranbrook area.
I have downloaded the .zip file and read the README file.

Attached in the .zip file are 2 files:
The BCDx36HP_Sentinel_Version_1_07_03.zip (40,922 KB)
And BCDx36HP-V1_11_15.zip (4,225 KB)

So my question is ... do I need to load the BIG .ZIP file 1st and then update it with the Smaller .ZIP file?
Or is the smaller file a compressed complete program?
I'm just looking at the Version ... which brought forth the question.

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This file , BCDx36HP-V1_11_15.zip (4,225 KBgets unzipped. There are two files in there, one for the 436, one for the 536. Drop whichever one is appropriate into the FIRMWARE directory on the scanners SD card and then power cycle the scanner. That will install the update.

This file, ),The BCDx36HP_Sentinel_Version_1_07_03.zip is the new version of Sentinel. Unzip that to a directory on your scanner and then run the Setup file to install the new version of Sentinel on your computer.

To unzip firmware update, you need to read the README.TXT file. Which you should do anyway as it gives explicit directions on what to do with the two zip files.



I am hoping to get the DMR Release firmware up and running while still in the Cranbrook area.
I have downloaded the .zip file and read the README file.

Attached in the .zip file are 2 files:
The BCDx36HP_Sentinel_Version_1_07_03.zip (40,922 KB)
And BCDx36HP-V1_11_15.zip (4,225 KB)

So my question is ... do I need to load the BIG .ZIP file 1st and then update it with the Smaller .ZIP file?
Or is the smaller file a compressed complete program?
I'm just looking at the Version ... which brought forth the question.

Thanks
 
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This file The BCDx36HP_Sentinel_Version_1_07_03.zip, gets unzipped. There are two files in there, one for the 436, one for the 536. Drop whichever one is appropriate into the FIRMWARE directory on the scanners SD card and then power cycle the scanner. That will install the update.

This file, BCDx36HP-V1_11_15.zip (4,225 KB), is the new version of Sentinel. Unzip that to a directory on your scanner and then run the Setup file to install the new version of Sentinel on your computer.

To unzip firmware update, you need to read the README.TXT file. Which you should do anyway as it gives explicit directions on what to do with the two zip files.

Garys, that was good info, but I think you got the 2 files switched. The sentinal zip just gets unzipped and installed normally, it's the V1_11_15 zip that you have to unzip, copy the 436 or 536 file into your firmware folder on the sd card, then cycle power.
 

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Digital Only setable from within sentinal?

I was wondering if the final release of the sentinal program will include the ability to set a channel to Digital only? The best I can find in the pre-release version is the Mode, which I set to FM. But all instructions say you have to use the radio keyboard and manually set a channel to Digital only. It sure would be nice to be able to set it in the sentinal program. What do you say Mr. Upman?
 

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You're right, I'll edit that to eliminate the confusion.

Garys, that was good info, but I think you got the 2 files switched. The sentinal zip just gets unzipped and installed normally, it's the V1_11_15 zip that you have to unzip, copy the 436 or 536 file into your firmware folder on the sd card, then cycle power.
 

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For conventional channels, click on "Audio Option". A window pops up and you can select Digital, Analog, or All. You can also set PL, DPL, NAC, and Color Code.

For MotoTrbo trunking, you can not change the audio type.



I was wondering if the final release of the sentinal program will include the ability to set a channel to Digital only? The best I can find in the pre-release version is the Mode, which I set to FM. But all instructions say you have to use the radio keyboard and manually set a channel to Digital only. It sure would be nice to be able to set it in the sentinal program. What do you say Mr. Upman?
 
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For conventional channels, click on "Audio Option". A window pops up and you can select Digital, Analog, or All. You can also set PL, DPL, NAC, and Color Code.

For MotoTrbo trunking, you can not change the audio type.

Thanks again Garys
I've seen that option and even used it for DCS and CTCSS codes, but it never "clicked" that you could use it just to set the audio to digital only. Seems to be I'm learning something every day. Thanks again.
 

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I'm learning too, because I generally don't use Sentinel for programming, I use ARC536. It's also not blindingly obvious that you can do this, I had to dig around for several minutes before I figured it out.

Thanks again Garys
I've seen that option and even used it for DCS and CTCSS codes, but it never "clicked" that you could use it just to set the audio to digital only. Seems to be I'm learning something every day. Thanks again.
 

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I sure wish Uniden has a Website not made in the early 90's... I have a PILE of these scanners and it would take more than a week or 2 just to purchase the DMR Upgrade.... IF it was not for Constant Errors and Failures. One a day is all I have the Patience for.
 

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DMR upgrade

I hope I am posting this in the right place, this might sound stupid but I want to know what button you push to enter - a dash in between the DMR numbers ? I have my DMR key but when I entered it in my 436 it did not take my key I entered key without the dash between numbers can not figure how to enter the dash. Sorry if I posted this in the wrong place.
 
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