. . . i heard around 7-8 pm last night a big hostage negotiation going on at a school. it sounded like SWAT was there and the guy had a shot gun and multiple hostages. one officer was so close to the suspect, he had to whisper in his radio. i don't know what school it was at (cuz i caught it in the middle), but it was on bellevue tac1 i think. the weird thing is, i didn't see anything on the news. i could understand the news not playing it as live breaking news because it would interfier with the situation. but they would have something about it today, but non of the news stations say anything. bellevue has a training talkgroup channel and i've heard them train before on it, and this thing didn't sound like training. they talked about seeing the suspect and turning off lights, but the emergency lights turned on. they also got him to release the hostages safely, and why would that be part of SWAT training (wouldn't they want to raid the place as part of training). idk, but it sounded serious . . . any ideas?
Do police ever train on normal talkgroup channels? because . . .
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yes they do and it sounds like that is what you where listen to
AuntBee09 said:
SWAT usually uses a "raid" as a last resort tactic or "no knock" warrents. If they can talk a stand-off or a barricade event down then they will, but if the person(s) taking hostages doesn't comply they will usually progress till a "last resort" which is usually a raid.
kicktd said:
o alright. but why would they set up a school hostage training scenario and end it by the hostages being freed through negotiation (meaning there was no raid in this training, but they acted like there was going to be). isn't it like training for a baseball game, but pretending it was called off because of bad weather lol? the team gets no training. it just seems kind weird. and i should correct something: i never heard "SWAT" come over my scanner, but it was pretty obvious that it was some kind of special team/operation and i assumed it was SWAT . . . i could be wrong.
SWAT usually handles the negotiations with barricaded suspects. So yes it's still all part of training for SWAT plus it teaches the team to be patient and to wait it out. Sometimes it ends peacefully like this training scenario and sometimes it doesn't but they have to be prepared for both 
AuntBee09 said:
From reading your past post you are new to scanning, I live in the Everett WA, area and have heard the fire and police talk as it there was a big fire or some kind of police action, and it was just training it was kind of funny with the fire dept I wasted over an hour listening went to work told everyone what i had heard but is was not in the news, funny thing on the why home the next day the same type fire thing was going firefighter fell through the floor in a building fire the 3rd day on the way home I turned my scanner little bit earlier then the two days before, and they stated they where starting the traing exersize they where doing it all over agine.
So face what you heard was traning, They do that you know.
kicktd said:SWAT usually handles the negotiations with barricaded suspects. So yes it's still all part of training for SWAT plus it teaches the team to be patient and to wait it out. Sometimes it ends peacefully like this training scenario and sometimes it doesn't but they have to be prepared for both
that makes since. good point: it wouldn't really be good training if everything was super pradictable and rutine
lowboy654 said:
i've found (with my little experience compared to yours) that it's hard to tell because training is suppose to be so realistic. speaking of fire fighting tho, i heard the recent 3-alarm in kent from the start with my scanner. http://www.komotv.com/news/local/4948787.html
it was really intense: there was one firefighter who called out "maday", but it was cancelled. but it was still really serious and real listening to it on my scanner, then turning on 710 KIRO and listen to a reporter describe it as it was breaking. pretty cool
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Do police ever train on normal talkgroup channels?
"Do police ever train on normal talkgroup channels?" Yes! I once heard a dispatcher send two patrol units to a holdup - within five minutes they had "captured" the "suspects" and I thought cool! 30 minutes later I heard the same broadcast go out to two different patrol units - hello? After the third time I figured out it was a training test. It continued for three days with new units each time.
"they also got him to release the hostages safely, and why would that be part of SWAT training" - That is the PRIMARY purpose of SWAT operations, SWAT "raids" are a last resort when all else fails.
AuntBee09 said:
"Do police ever train on normal talkgroup channels?" Yes! I once heard a dispatcher send two patrol units to a holdup - within five minutes they had "captured" the "suspects" and I thought cool! 30 minutes later I heard the same broadcast go out to two different patrol units - hello? After the third time I figured out it was a training test. It continued for three days with new units each time.
"they also got him to release the hostages safely, and why would that be part of SWAT training" - That is the PRIMARY purpose of SWAT operations, SWAT "raids" are a last resort when all else fails.
hankv
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AuntBee09 said:
News Media usually gets advanced notice, especially if it's a large exercise.
ps: Actually Re-Re-Tired
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I have found that most of the police swat training that is heard on scanners is talking people out and giving commands to the teams. Training for situations going bad is usually non radio traffic or on their own communicators they are usually on a simplex radio.
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Years ago when I was living in Walla Walla I picked up Hanford Security. There was a hostage situation with an employee's husband having a gun (it was years ago so it might habve also been shots fired). They were dispatching medic units as well, but yet when I scanned other frequencies, there was no traffic. With the trend of this trhead, obviously it turned out to me a training exercise, but for a few minutes it was very exciting.
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