Do we expect Whistler to get ProVoice

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Hello All - want to get a scanner that can do ProVoice and it looks like BCD436HP and BCD536HP are the only ones able to do it now.

Do we expect the list of scanners able to get this grow?
 

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None talking about Whistler and PROVOICE but both scanner companies have been very hush hush about new things. Whistler Wendy would be the one to release any info and she has said nothing at this time.
 

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Hello All - want to get a scanner that can do ProVoice and it looks like BCD436HP and BCD536HP are the only ones able to do it now.

Do we expect the list of scanners able to get this grow?

I have been highly disappointed in the perfunctory takeover of GRE by Whistler. Years ago, I used to exclusively buy Whistler Radar Detectors because they were great units. Then, something changed and they started producing lower priced and what I consider to be inferior detectors.

When I heard they bought GRE, I was ecstatic. However, it has been a very long time now and they have yet to introduce anything beyond the PSR 900 which was featured at one of the electronic conventions one year. Yawn, big deal.

I would like to make it abundantly clear that I HATE the architecture of my 436, it sucks!

Nobody has manufactured anything close to the V-Folder concept.

So, Whistler, you are a pack of buffoons, in my opinion. You could have cornered the market, but you failed miserably. Yes, I am quite incensed by this failed opportunity.

If Whistler comes out with anything such as ProVoice, MOTOTRBO or NEXEDGE or finally remedies the problem with linear simulcast distortion, I will kiss the arse of almost anyone (with the exception of Oprah) in the town square in the presence of rolling cameras.
 

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I've used V-Folders. I much prefer the ability to avoid hard limits of the data from single folders, and like the ability to add any area I want to what I am scanning.

It's natural to dislike anything different. But, give DMA memory a chance. Most people wonder how they ever lived without it once they learn it.
 

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I'm curious why that is. I can do everything with DMA memory I could do with V-Folders and more.
 

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When I heard they bought GRE, I was ecstatic. However, it has been a very long time now and they have yet to introduce anything beyond the PSR 900 which was featured at one of the electronic conventions one year. Yawn, big deal.

So you would rather have them accelerate their R&D schedule and rush a radio with missing or incomplete features out the door? I think I've seen this movie before.

For the record, Whistler claims to have made major changes to the WS1095 before they released it. Whether or not that is true, I don't know.
 

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let's see...

Major scanner manufactuers goes out of buisness, Radar detector manufactuer purchases intelectual rights to product line. Some personel come over to the new owner. New owner has to find manufacturing facility (or room in existing plant), source parts (probably very few common to existing product line), get new products over the "learning curve" (including training new staff to build/test, etc a new product to them), and get product to market. Probably involved at new hires. This has taken aprox two years +. Sounds like an normal proccess to me.

Almost like a car manufactuer buying out a motorcycle company, lots of new things to learn
 

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let's see...

Major scanner manufactuers goes out of buisness, Radar detector manufactuer purchases intelectual rights to product line. Some personel come over to the new owner. New owner has to find manufacturing facility (or room in existing plant), source parts (probably very few common to existing product line), get new products over the "learning curve" (including training new staff to build/test, etc a new product to them), and get product to market. Probably involved at new hires. This has taken aprox two years +. Sounds like an normal proccess to me.

Almost like a car manufactuer buying out a motorcycle company, lots of new things to learn

Yes, many people do not understand what it takes to develop a product and then bring it to market. The logistics of sourcing components, testing and production line set up all take time. As far as I know there are still only 24 hours in a day.

If Whistler only purchased the intellectual properties to the scanner products from GRE the only major phase they skipped was design. Otherwise they were in a full blown new product startup situation.
 
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Hello All - want to get a scanner that can do ProVoice and it looks like BCD436HP and BCD536HP are the only ones able to do it now.

Do we expect the list of scanners able to get this grow?
Why would Whistler beat a dead horse called Pro Voice, it's end of life with limited staturation
I asked at CES is Whistler going to offer at least basic DMR anytime soon. No response just a smile
Not sure what it meant, either yes or you looser, after all CES was held in Vegas
 

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Rush?

So you would rather have them accelerate their R&D schedule and rush a radio with missing or incomplete features out the door? I think I've seen this movie before.

For the record, Whistler claims to have made major changes to the WS1095 before they released it. Whether or not that is true, I don't know.

Rush? Like a snail on Librium. That would be the analogy I would use. Of course, I have no background in what it takes to bring a product online, but I can tell you, without a doubt, the quality of their product line took a nose dive during the middle nineties When they did, they introduced a radar detector that would compare with Cobra. I am using this as an example. When and if they introduce innovation to their product line, like solving linear simulcast distortion, etc., I will return as a loyal customer. But, for the current time, Uniden has all of the marbles. I have heard Whistler/GRE handle linear simulcast distortion and it is a joke. This is why I bought my 436HP. No, it is not perfect, but it slams the competition. Again, I hope that Whistler surprises me because I prefer GRE-styled radios.
 
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The 436 was in R&D for many years before release (probably 5+,) and it is still incomplete as announced. If you haven't read the complaint threads about missing promised features, I suggest you do. At least the Whistler's contain what it says on the box.

There are also tons of complaints about the 436's performance on LSM. If you live in one of the areas where a problem exists, there's no solution visible. If you live in an area where it works, you are left wondering what the problem everyone is talking about is.

The next Whistler release will be their true first foray into the scanner building world. I would expect no less that 5 years from the acquisition of the GRE IP to production of their first true Whistler scanner. If that's a "snail on Librium" so be it, but it's an acceptable time frame within the industry-which is really all that matters.
 

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Ed I know it is beating a dead horse but people want a scanner like the apx7000 or apx8000 radios that cost thousands of dollars and motorola has been working on for what feels like 10 plus years.
 

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Ed I know it is beating a dead horse but people want a scanner like the apx7000 or apx8000 radios that cost thousands of dollars and motorola has been working on for what feels like 10 plus years.

Oh, I know, it's just that I remember the progression between the BC300 (1982?), BC760XLT (1987-88), BC890XLT (1994) and BC780XLT(1999-2000) and I have to laugh at the expectations of expeditious releases of "flagship" products.

For the record, I consider the BC895XLT and 785D/796D to be improvements upon 890 and 780, not a true release of a redesigned radio.
 
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