lucky43113
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I hear these daily from all types of people sometimes just random traffic stops. just curious if others hear it a lot too
reminds me of last summer local gas stations credit card machine was down so they had people write their name card number and security number on a piece of paper so the card could be charged when the machine started working. I saw at least 3 pages of numbers people had no issues doing itMost times it's a driver's or operator license number.
However, I hear SSNs quite often around here on state police talkgroups -- used usually when the driver (person, etc.) doesn't have a driver's license or other ID when stopped by police.
In fact, hopefully a rare situation, I recently heard even more dangerous information passed in the clear on a business system talkgroup - credit card specifics (all of it including security code), name, etc.
Definitely not good....
nothing is encrypted in my area and nothing except foul language seems to be prohibited from being said on the airMy county police are mostly unencrypted for dispatch/routine calls (as it should be). However, they are smart enough to have encrypted some talkgroups including one to do want/warrant and other checks and operational uses where the information should be protected.
Others around the area - including law enforcement in some local jurisdictions and even state police - haven't gotten that smart (yet). Unfortunately, what will happen is eventually they just encrypt everything using this situation as one of the reasons for doing so.
You must not be listening to any business radio........nothing except foul language seems to be prohibited from being said on the air
well i was referring to police sheriff etc.. i have a lot of business channels in my scanner but never hear anything on themYou must not be listening to any business radio.....
Public safety is definitely more professional.
Absolutely - a good place for use of encryption (one of many)....Which is why all teletype talkgroups should be encrypted and also not allowed to be streamed over the internet.
I always thought it would be easy to steal an identity by listening to the scanner I would never do that buy some wouldI hear OLN's (drivers license) and SSN both all the time.
Be Safe
Ditto Ohio, which had similar concerns several years ago; despite both OLN and SSN being on the drivers license, most officers gave the SSN over the radio. The state legislature passed a law making the OLN the "permanent" number and allowing people to not have their SSN on the license.Years ago back home in southeastern VA it was commonplace to hear SSNs being tossed about over the air consistently but I mean years ago as in the early 80s, just before trunked systems came into being with widespread use. The issue for my state was that long long ago Virginia actually used a person's SSN as their driver's license ID number - they were taken to court over it since technically it is a Federal offense to use an SSN for anything but the purpose it was designed for meaning only the Social Security Administration is supposed to use it for ID purposes of any kind.
At some point in the late 1980s Virginia shifted to using some other type of ID number generation because of that lawsuit but even so these days it seems like EVERYBODY uses an SSN for anything they damned well please when it's not really allowed, it gets done anyway.