Does anybody know why I have nt heard milair on my 96?

[Cobra_Commander]

All i heard was the c130's from yougstown airport and thats it once why cant i hear anymore milair ? :?:

 

[fireant]

The pro 96 is not really set up for mil air the win 96 unlocks the freqs but the scanner is pretty much deaf in that area much like the pro 95 I have. If you want to listen to mil air with success you have to get a scanner that comes with the 220-400 range not sure of the exact cutoff but this is the area for mil air.

hope this helps

fireant

 

[radioscan]

The 910th Airlift Wing at Youngstown is the US Air Force Reserves and aren't really all that active.
You may have a better chance to hear a refueling in
AR217, 218, 219, 200 which crosses over northern Ohio.

Try these:

First off - 910th AW Youngstown-Warren RAP

263.00 Tower
275.8 Ground
276.0 Tactical
298.95 Approach/Departure
322.3 Approach/Departure
384.7 BATTLESTAR OPS (910th AW Command Post)
381.4 Approach/Departure
393.0 Approach/Departure



283.90 AR-217 Primary
282.70 AR-217 Secondary
306.30 AR-217 Entry
317.40 AR-217 Exit

352.60 AR-218 Primary
282.70 AR-218 Secondary
307.10 AR-218 Entry
269.30 AR-218 Exit

366.30 AR-219 Primary
282.70 AR-219 Secondary
363.10 AR-219 Entry
288.30 AR-219 Exit

352.60 AR-220 Primary
282.70 AR-220 Secondary
307.10 AR-220 Entry
317.40 AR-220 Exit

348.90 AR-206H Primary
282.70 AR-206H Secondary
323.00 AR-206H Entry
354.10 AR-206H Exit

235.10 AR-206L Primary
282.70 AR-206L Secondary
323.00 AR-206L Entry
307.80 AR-206L Exit

Also try listening for the 171st Air Refueling Wing, the PA-ANG
out of Pittsburgh IAP.

293.70 STEEL Control
303.00 STEEL Ops


Give those a try and let us know what you hear.

Mark

 

[TeRayCodA]

Fireant is right,you will hear the 118-136Mhz air traffic,as military air traffic are sometimes handed off to the ATCC(air traffic control centers)on the civilian/commercial aviation band.Most time they are using the UHF 225-400Mhz swath to contact the centers.
BTW,Radio Shack does not have many scanners capable of this band anymore.
Trunking is the big thing now.

 

[CORN]

Some people say their 96 can pick it up good with the frequencies unlocked by Win 96 but i believe they are few and far between. The PRO-96 was not designed nor EVER intended to pick up Milair well if at all. So your best bet is to get a scanner with the 225-400Mhz already included in the band coverage. One example is the old PRO-43 that you could find on ebay or another is the Uniden BC-780XLT. The Shack's PRO-2052 is another route that includes the milair band. When you are hearing the C-130's you might be hearing them on VHF as most cargo planes use that rather than "Uniform". The Pro-96 will pick that up well. Like already sted the Pro-96 was designed as a digital trunktracker and it does that well.

 

[loumaag]

There are those who "say" things like, the Pro-96 is deaf at MilAir frequency ranges or that unlocking the frequencies in a Pro-96 is useless as it can't really hear in the unlocked frequencies.

Well, while I will freely admit that the radio was not designed to pick up the band from say 250-400MHz it certainly is not "deaf". Unlike the Pro-93/95 which was designed to be deaf in that area, the Pro-96 just isn't as sensitive as it is elsewhere, but it is acceptable.

Now, do I base these statements on personal experience, well in part. I am not a real fan of any kind of air communications but was intrigued enough when I found I was almost under a air-to-air refuling track to set it up in the radio. Have I picked up anything? Yes I have. Is it boring? You bet! However, I also base my statements on test data. That would be real tests using a service monitor, not ad-hoc opinions. I suggest to all who might be interested to review the data presented on Don's web site at this link:
http://www.starrsoft.com/software/win96/FreqTest.asp

 

[CORN]

Well, obviously the man is having trouble picking up the stuff and he is definitely interested in it. So half of the statements of it being boring is irrelevant. Obviously your a big fan of the radio which is great, so am I. But for trunking and conventional scanning only. I think no one on this forum has said it's designed to be deaf in the area but if you have to be right in the general area because it's so sensitive then that reiterates the statements that it wasn't designed nor intended to recieve those frequencies well. Therefore is not suitable for milair. There are a lot of people out there who like those comms and it is anything but boring to them or me. Enough said.

 

[astrodanco]

See the following web page for actual PRO-96 sensitivity measurements:
http://www.starrsoft.com/software/win96/FreqTest.asp

 

[loumaag]

Well, obviously the man is having trouble picking up the stuff and he is definitely interested in it. So half of the statements of it being boring is irrelevant. Obviously your a big fan of the radio which is great, so am I. But for trunking and conventional scanning only. I think no one on this forum has said it's designed to be deaf in the area but if you have to be right in the general area because it's so sensitive then that reiterates the statements that it wasn't designed nor intended to recieve those frequencies well. Therefore is not suitable for milair. There are a lot of people out there who like those comms and it is anything but boring to them or me. Enough said.

CORN, I think you took my post wrong and perhaps you should re-read it. I said, I find air communications boring, not that Don (Cobra_Commander) finds them boring. And to be exact, I only made two statements in reference to receving MilAir comms, one that the Pro-96 can do it and that I thought it was boring.

As to your comment that nobody said it was designed to be deaf in that area, what do you call this:

The pro 96 is not really set up for mil air the win 96 unlocks the freqs but the scanner is pretty much deaf in that area much like the pro 95 I have.

What I was pointing out is that the Pro-96 was not designed to be deaf in the MilAir frequency range, but the Pro-93/95 was designed to be deaf in that area and comparing the two is neither fair nor correct.

What I said, and I will repeat myself here since it is apparent people just look and don't read anymore, the Pro-96 is not deaf in MilAir spectrum, it just isn't as sensitive as a radio desgined for it. It will work and it will work better than having to be in the "general area". Since ground based VHF/UFH air frequency communications aren't going to be heard anywhere except in close proximity to the source (I don't care what radio you are using), let us consider the air borne portion. I guess a Pro-96, which can hear air traffic in the UHF portion of the air band (MilAir) from several hundred miles away, should be considerea at least capable of doing MilAir even if it can be beat by a radio designed for MilAir.

TO: astrodanco
Thank you for reposting the same link I had, I am sure no one saw it (or maybe no one understands it) but the information is still the same.