Does TYS use ADS-B for it's Air Traffic Control?

[KD7HGK]

I did some googling and found an article that says that TYS uses a "ASR-9 Radar and ARTS IIE Automated Radar Tracking System" (http://www.stuckmic.com/gallery/misc.php?do=downloadfile&i=987 page 4) Is this an ADS-B system?. Can I use Radar Box to decode this kind of radar or do I need something else, or is it impossible to watch at all? Is this info even accurate?

 

[kma371]

ADS-B is sent out by the aircraft. Not all aircraft have ADS-B however as it's not a requirement yet until 2020?

Based on this website:

Plane Finder – Flight Radar | Aircraft Tracker | Live Flight Tracking

http://planefinder.net/about/how-planefinder-works/

It doesn't appear anyone near KTYS (I had to look it up) has a box to receive aircraft. I'm sure you will get something rather than nothing at all. Mostly transitioning aircraft enroute to Nashville or Louisville as those are hubs for FDX and UPS if i remember correctly.

 

[KD7HGK]

ah, I see. ADS-B would be coming from the aircraft. Thanks.

 

[chief21]

I'm on the other side of the mountains and I get a fair amount of ADS-B signals here... most from aircraft enroute to or departing from Atlanta. You'd be surprised how far the signal carries from the aircraft. Even though I'm located amongst lots of hills, my receiver can "see" aircraft at altitude in the vicinity of ATL. I have received ADS-B signals from as far away as 220 nm.

Since ADS-B is required in Europe, all the foreign aircraft use it when flying in the US. Currently, however, only certain types of US-based commercial aircraft use ADS-B. Military support aircraft (non-fighter) have ADS-B but don;t usually report their position, only their callsign and aircraft type.

JK

 

[kma371]

Follow up, if they are not transmitting a position, they are likely using a Mode A, S or C transponder.

 

[KD7HGK]

Can Radarbox pick up and read the technology that ADS-B is supposed to be replacing?

 

[Markb]

The Airnav Radarbox can receive ADSB, but is fairly limited compared to other available products. I had a Radarbox for several years and traded up for a Mode-S Beast and am using PlanePlotter for the software suite. Particularly here in the US, there are some pretty fantastic features such as multilateration, Mode-A/C receive, as well as TIS-B receive as well, which equals much more aircraft displayed.
Also, receiving shared data costs per month with the RB and it's free with PlanePlotter.
Just a suggestion if you haven't purchased anything yet.

Mark

 

[kma371]

I agree with mark 100%. I'm a Beast / Plane Plotter user as well. It provides great coverage.

"zj"

 

[K4DHR]

In short, no. ADS-B is currently only used for ATC services in the US over the Gulf of Mexico and in Alaska, and I think around Louisville, KY in a test capacity (UPS specifically).

All aircraft are *supposed* to be equipped with ADS-B out by 2020. There is no date for ADS-B in, though I suspect it too will become mandated for aircraft using certain types of airspace at some point, since it is supposed to allow a direct data link to the aircraft for issuing control instructions.

But ASR-9 is a 15-20 year old radar, and ARTS IIE is even older than that. Think old round scopes, lots of switches and buttons around the edge of the scope, green screen and a sweep line. That stuff makes the 10+ year old DSR stuff we have in the center look like the most recent advance in radar display technology. However, ARTS IIE is only used at smaller approach controls since it can only support two radar feeds, and a limited number of radar tracks.

 

[KD7HGK]

Wirelessly posted (Opera/9.80 (BREW; Opera Mini/5.63/27.1591; U; en) Presto/2.8.119 240X320 Samsung SCH-U660)

im on my phone right now but looked at the mode s beast website. When i get home ill compare them SxS. If the beast can indeed receive more, ill go with it.

 

[kma371]

The Beast has a much higher frame rate than the RB, thus receives better.

Also support for RB blows if you search around, you will see lots of negative reviews.

 

[KD7HGK]

Why would I pay almost $800 for Radar Box when Mode S Beast will receive more modes for only 400 euros ($513.24 US dollars according to Google)? Modes S Beast it is. I've got a roof replacement coming in the next few months so this will have to hold off until I have that paid off. But it's good to have the info ahead of time.

 

[kma371]

Why would I pay almost $800 for Radar Box when Mode S Beast will receive more modes for only 400 euros ($513.24 US dollars according to Google)? Modes S Beast it is. I've got a roof replacement coming in the next few months so this will have to hold off until I have that paid off. But it's good to have the info ahead of time.

My point exactly. The Beast is a much better receiver. While your at it, download a program called PlanePlotter, if you haven't already, and use it interfaced with the Beast.

 

[scanpprcn]

Why would I pay almost $800 for Radar Box when Mode S Beast will receive more modes for only 400 euros ($513.24 US dollars according to Google)? Modes S Beast it is. I've got a roof replacement coming in the next few months so this will have to hold off until I have that paid off. But it's good to have the info ahead of time.

KD7HGK, I sent you a PM re the Beast.

73,

Mike B.