Immelmen, I think your characterization of everything west of ORD being a cakewalk is a little inaccurate. 
Here in California, I've definitely controllers at both Norcal and Socal TRACONs rip air carrier pilots a new one when they screw up. SFO can get crazy in good weather with their normal capacity hinging on the availability of pilots flying Charted Visual Flight Procedures to parallel runways spaced 500 ft apart, and the proximity of SFO/OAK/SJC in such a small area complicate things. In Socal, SAN is the busiest single-runway airport in the world (and they squeeze those guys into minimum spacing so they better have their s*** together) and the complexity of the Los Angeles basin goes without saying.
There's no question in my mind that ORD and JFK controllers are unrivaled in their ruthlessness, and California controllers tend to be laid back (maybe it's that "surfer dude" attitude), just wanted to add that everyone taking your advice to go out west should probably stop when they reach Salt Lake Center. :lol: :lol:
To stay on topic, the audio in those videos was lifted from the liveatc.net forums (where they were obtained from liveatc's feed archives), which is a great resource. I hope somebody feeds O'Hare eventually because I would love to hear this abuse first hand.
Inigo
Here in California, I've definitely controllers at both Norcal and Socal TRACONs rip air carrier pilots a new one when they screw up. SFO can get crazy in good weather with their normal capacity hinging on the availability of pilots flying Charted Visual Flight Procedures to parallel runways spaced 500 ft apart, and the proximity of SFO/OAK/SJC in such a small area complicate things. In Socal, SAN is the busiest single-runway airport in the world (and they squeeze those guys into minimum spacing so they better have their s*** together) and the complexity of the Los Angeles basin goes without saying.
There's no question in my mind that ORD and JFK controllers are unrivaled in their ruthlessness, and California controllers tend to be laid back (maybe it's that "surfer dude" attitude), just wanted to add that everyone taking your advice to go out west should probably stop when they reach Salt Lake Center. :lol: :lol:
To stay on topic, the audio in those videos was lifted from the liveatc.net forums (where they were obtained from liveatc's feed archives), which is a great resource. I hope somebody feeds O'Hare eventually because I would love to hear this abuse first hand.
Inigo
