DSD+ and DMR Tier 3

[mtindor]

If that is it, I'll calculate the CH IDs and see what I can find.

I dunno. I'm taking a guess based upon the general area you seem to post about (NY) and surrounding states. Looked up the three freqs in FCC data, and the only license location with more than one of those freqs on it (and in fact all three) was the Marcus site in the Danbury CT area. Since I'm nowhere near you, I gotta leave it up to you to determine if that is really the company/site location. Probably is though. LTR is pretty much defunct. Wouldn't surprise me if some of Marcus' other locations haven't turned into DMR TIII sites. If they haven't, then likely some or all will eventually.

Unless I calculated something incorrectly (and I could have):

FREQ        DSDPLUS        UNIDEN
451.0625    173/174        86
451.1375    185/186        92
451.1625    189/190        94
451.2125    197/198        98
462.325     1975/1976      987
463.3125    2133/2134      1066
463.7125    2197/2198      1098
464.600     2339/2340      1169
464.8875    2385/2386      1192

 

[cg]

Why you would not get all the traffic is unknown. There may be a couple reasons.
First, they may be locked out. You had mentioned you have already locked out groups. They will still display but the voice will not follow.
Second, You may have the monitor threshold too low. By default, it is off but if you have made it below 50, the default group priority, you wouldn't hear them.
Third, could be encryption. The info still displays though.

 

[seagravebuff60]

So I have everything set to a priority of "50". I don't think I have anything locked out, but i can check again.

I also don't remember seeing any "ENC Group Calls". Unless they are ENC the CC and Frequencies

 

[RaleighGuy]

So I have everything set to a priority of "50". I don't think I have anything locked out, but i can check again.

I also don't remember seeing any "ENC Group Calls". Unless they are ENC the CC and Frequencies

Have you looked through the DSDPLUS.Event log (your log may start with a different name but ends with dot event) and see if that gives you any clues? It is in the DSDPlus folder.

 

[cg]

The other thing I thought of is private calls. If you look at the Control tab>Call Priorities and look to see if all are set for Normal Handling

 

[seagravebuff60]

Yep, all are set to normal. The latest group calls i see all look like they are normal. Maybe what i can do is try to screen record.

 

[mtindor]

Yep, all are set to normal. The latest group calls i see all look like they are normal. Maybe what i can do is try to screen record.

View attachment 132410 View attachment 132411

Can you confirm your Ctrl settings per my attached screenshot - Specifically Combined CC/VC Monitor and Voice/Data Call Following?

 

[seagravebuff60]

Sure. Hopefully, everything is correct.

 

[mtindor]

When a group call is active, take a screenshot of your Channel Activity window and paste it

 

[mtindor]

And how about a pic of the bottom of your main DSDPlus window when you are sitting on the control channel. At this point I have to wonder if you don't have something wrong in your DSDPlus.Networks, DSDPlus.Sites and DSDplus.frequencies file. All of them need populated with correct info

 

[mtindor]

And if you aren't wanting to reveal the requested details because you want to be super-secretive about whatever you are monitoring, you should be on your own at this point. You just can't go asking for people to engage in lengthy "help" sessions if you aren't willing to show the details of the system so that somebody can tell you exactly how it needs to be set up to trunk properly in DSDPlus.

 

[seagravebuff60]

When a group call is active, take a screenshot of your Channel Activity window and paste it

I switched sites to a different one with more activity but it's the same issue regardless. On this site, I have everything in the .frequencies file filled out.


Before the other site had only the CC coded into the .frequencies file and everything auto-populated, But the same issue

And how about a pic of the bottom of your main DSDPlus window when you are sitting on the control channel. At this point I have to wonder if you don't have something wrong in your DSDPlus.Networks, DSDPlus.Sites and DSDplus.frequencies file. All of them need populated with correct info

So everything is correctly populated into the .Networks, .Sites and .frequencies files.

 

[mtindor]

You're purposefully omitting things from the screenshots. As such, I'm purposefully done. You have a lot of guts asking for help in such detail and then not provide all that is necessary to assist you. You post a channel activity window and then you don't indicate what system it belongs to (or at least post the bottom line of the DSDPlus main screen when you are sitting on that site. that makes it impossible for anybody to tell you exactly what you need in .networks, .sites and .frequencies.

And unless you chopped off those bottom lines for L13-1.6 and L13-2.1, you absolutely don't have everything set up for trunking that particular site.

 

[waynedc]

The CC freq you listed should be 454.65000

 

[cg]

That freq is correct, Part 22 (ex paging) licenses are different.
DSDPlus works fine on the 5 Marcus sites I can monitor.

 

[cg]

Homeland Defense Network - Scan New England Wiki

www.snewiki.com

scroll down to the DMR

 

[seagravebuff60]

And if you aren't wanting to reveal the requested details because you want to be super-secretive about whatever you are monitoring, you should be on your own at this point. You just can't go asking for people to engage in lengthy "help" sessions if you aren't willing to show the details of the system so that somebody can tell you exactly how it needs to be set up to trunk properly in DSDPlus.

Can't wait 20 Minutes for me to post the details? The system isn't exactly active every second, Took me a second to post a screenshot. Jeez.

I didn't ask anyone for a "Lengthy help session", that's your assumption. If I'm not willing to share the details of the system it shouldn't matter. I said I rather not share the details, but instead, you found the details. Good for u, I'm happy u can do basic research.

You're purposefully omitting things from the screenshots. As such, I'm purposefully done. You have a lot of guts asking for help in such detail and then not provide all that is necessary to assist you. You post a channel activity window and then you don't indicate what system it belongs to (or at least post the bottom line of the DSDPlus main screen when you are sitting on that site. that makes it impossible for anybody to tell you exactly what you need in .networks, .sites and .frequencies.

And unless you chopped off those bottom lines for L13-1.6 and L13-2.1, you absolutely don't have everything set up for trunking that particular site.

To satisfy your needs I will explain. I'm not omitting anything as you claim. Im just explaining so you understand better. All my other settings are the same as I stated in multiple posts above. Here are the correct pictures below.

For site 1.6


and for site 2.1

That freq is correct, Part 22 (ex paging) licenses are different.
DSDPlus works fine on the 5 Marcus sites I can monitor.

So Far I've only found 2 I can monitor lol. But yes according to the Program above when I calculated it that's what came up.

Homeland Defense Network - Scan New England Wiki

www.snewiki.com

scroll down to the DMR

Ok, Thanks for the info. I'll see if, with my info, info from the RR DB, and info from that page ill update my DSD Files and see if I can find more info.

 

[mtindor]

I see now. Homeland Defense Network in the RRDB -- and apparently people really don't like submitting much to it. Ok fine.

I'll just give an example for a site the OP might not be able to monitor -- but at least he should get an idea of what needs to exist in the various files

DSDPlus.Networks
; line format: protocol, networkID, "network name"[, TIIIareaLength]
TIII,13,"Homeland Defense Network"

DSDplus.Sites
; line format: protocol, networkID, siteNumber, "site name"
TIII,13,1.3,"Durham"
TIII,13,1.6,"whatever the site location turns out to be"
TIII,13,2.1,"Danbury"

DSDPlus.frequencies
; protocol, networkID, siteNumber, OTAchannelNumber, TXfrequency, RXfrequency, sortOrder
TIII,13,1.3,177,451.0375,456.0375,1
TIII,13,1.3,915,461.4125,466.4125,2
TIII,13,1.3,921,461.4875,466.4875,3
TIII,13,1.3,1069,463.3375,468.3375,4
TIII,13,2.1,197,451.2125,456.2125,1
TIII,13,2.1,1975,462.325,467.325,2
TIII,13,2.1,2339,464.600,469.600,3
; etc for site 1.6

So if one wanted to monitor HDN site 2.1 (Danbury), assuming those are all the active freqs,that's what they would have in the files. Yep some things can be 0'd, like RX freq and Sort order. But I'm trying to be complete.

Now all the OP has to do is mimick that with whatever TIII site he/she is monitoring, using of course the proper networkID, siteNumber ,OTAchannelNumber and TXfrequency