DSD EXPERT HELP NEEDED?

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Can someone please school us in the proper formatting for the frequencies and site files for the different digital flavors? :
TIII (MOT)
TIII (HYT) L13-1.3 , 1.4
XPT
Freq=152.218750 RAN=5 No data for current site found in DSDPlus.frequencies file
Freq=450.337500 RAN=1 No data for current site found in DSDPlus.frequencies file
Freq=454.037500 RAN=17 No data for current site found in DSDPlus.frequencies file Freq=454.037500 RAN=17 R31-17 neighbor: Site R31-1; CC=34512 507.850000 Freq=454.037500 RAN=17 R31-17 neighbor: Site R31-2; CC=17469 454.590625
Freq=454.037500 RAN=17 R31-17 neighbor: Site R31-3; CC=17471 454.596875
Freq=454.037500 RAN=17 R31-17 neighbor: Site R31-8; CC=34712 508.475000
Freq=454.037500 RAN=17 R31-17 neighbor: Site R31-45; CC=17285 454.015625
Freq=454.037500 RAN=17 R31-17 neighbor: Site R31-70; CC=17339 454.184375

I'm not typing stuff in right?
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Ok limited to 15000 characters so had to zip it.
But looking for proper formatting for these?
; protocols:
;
; D-Star
; IDAS
; NEXEDGE48
; NEXEDGE96
; dPMR
; DMR
; Cap+
; Con+
; TIII
; P25
; ProVoice
;Thanks
 

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dave3825

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Do you get that error on sites other than site 82 on that system?

Con+, 119, 82, 1, 452.400, 466.9375, 0
Con+, 119, 82, 2, 452.400, 466.9375, 0
Con+, 119, 82, 3, 451.9375, 466.9375, 0
Con+, 119, 82, 4, 451.9375, 466.9375, 0
Con+, 119, 82, 5, 454.050, 466.9375, 0
Con+, 119, 82, 6, 454.050, 466.9375, 0
Con+, 119, 82, 7, 454.0375, 466.9375, 0
Con+, 119, 82, 8, 454.0375, 466.9375, 0
Con+, 119, 82, 9, 451.225, 466.9375, 0
Con+, 119, 82, 10, 451.225, 466.9375, 0
Con+, 119, 82, 11, 461.400, 466.9375, 0
Con+, 119, 82, 12, 461.400, 466.9375, 0

If I was scanning that site, this is how mine would look.

; 119 82 Fisher Wireless South Mountain
Con+, 119, 82, 1, 452.400, 466.9375, 0
Con+, 119, 82, 3, 451.9375, 466.9375, 0
Con+, 119, 82, 5, 454.050, 466.9375, 0
Con+, 119, 82, 7, 454.0375, 466.9375, 0
Con+, 119, 82, 9, 451.225, 466.9375, 0
Con+, 119, 82, 11, 461.400, 466.9375, 0



Your file also has all sites together. Mine has separation and identification between each site. I think because yours is lacking the details about the site, that may be why your getting the error. This is my freqs entries on a large Con+ site


; 171 2 Onevoice HHH

Con+, 171, 2, 1, 471.51250, 471.51250, 0, 2
Con+, 171, 2, 3, 471.53750, 471.53750, 0, 3
Con+, 171, 2, 5, 471.56250, 471.56250, 0, 4
Con+, 171, 2, 7, 471.61250, 471.61250, 0, 5
Con+, 171, 2, 9, 471.93750, 471.93750, 0, 6
Con+, 171, 2, 11, 472.98750, 472.98750, 0, 7
Con+, 171, 2, 13, 477.66250, 477.66250, 0, 8
Con+, 171, 2, 15, 477.81250, 477.81250, 0, 9
Con+, 171, 2, 27, 454.31875, 454.31875, 0, 10
Con+, 171, 2, 29, 454.33125, 454.33125, 0, 10

; 171 3 Onevoice Selden

Con+, 171, 3, 1, 472.56250, 472.56250, 0
Con+, 171, 3, 3, 477.78750, 477.78750, 0
Con+, 171, 3, 5, 477.88750, 477.88750, 0
Con+, 171, 3, 7, 478.48750, 478.48750, 0
Con+, 171, 3, 27, 454.31875, 454.31875, 0
Con+, 171, 3, 29, 454.33125, 454.33125, 0

; 171 8 Onevoice Plainview

Con+, 171, 8, 1, 471.5125, 471.5125, 0
Con+, 171, 8, 2, 471.5375, 471.5375, 0
Con+, 171, 8, 3, 471.5625, 471.5625, 0
Con+, 171, 8, 4, 471.7125, 471.7125, 0
Con+, 171, 8, 5, 471.8375, 471.8375, 0
Con+, 171, 8, 6, 471.8875, 471.8875, 0
Con+, 171, 8, 7, 471.9875, 471.9875, 0
Con+, 171, 8, 8, 472.8375, 472.8375, 0
Con+, 171, 8, 9, 472.8625, 472.8625, 0
Con+, 171, 8, 10, 472.8875, 472.8875, 0
Con+, 171, 8, 11, 477.9625, 477.9625, 0
Con+, 171, 8, 14, 454.31875, 454.31875, 0

; 171 27 Onevoice Manorville

Con+, 171, 27, 1, 0.0, 0.0, 0
Con+, 171, 27, 3, 0.0, 0.0, 0
Con+, 171, 27, 5, 0.0, 0.0, 0
Con+, 171, 27, 7, 0.0, 0.0, 0
Con+, 171, 27, 9, 0.0, 0.0, 0
Con+, 171, 27, 11, 0.0, 0.0, 0
Con+, 171, 27, 13, 0.0, 0.0, 0
Con+, 171, 27, 15, 454.31875, 0.0, 0
Con+, 171, 27, 17, 454.33125, 0.0, 0
Con+, 171, 27, 19, 454.44375, 0.0, 0
Con+, 171, 27, 21, 454.45000, 0.0, 0
Con+, 171, 27, 23, 454.45625, 0.0, 0
Con+, 171, 27, 25, 454.56875, 0.0, 0
Con+, 171, 27, 27, 454.575, 0.0, 0
Con+, 171, 27, 29, 454.58125, 0.0, 0
 
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What I'm looking for is the CORRECT way to properly format protocols.


; D-Star ?????????????
; IDAS ?????????????
; NEXEDGE48 31, 16, "454.310"
; NEXEDGE96 169, 1, 147, 451.8375, 456.8375, 0
; dPMR ?????????????
; DMR 1, 0, "461.7875 DMR"
; Cap+ 1, 1, 464.4125
; Con+ 119, 82, 1, 452.400, 466.9375, 0
; TIII L13-1.3 ?????????????
; TIII (HYT)
; TIII (MOT)
; P25 BEE00.346,1.002,"Northeast"
; ProVoice ?????????????

P.S. Whats the difference between DSDPlus.sites verses site loader shouldn't they be mirror image?
 

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I see messages like this?
Freq=452.012500 DCC=2 TIII system date/time: Friday January 27 02:49:00 UTC Offset: 6:00
2023/01/26 19:54:27 Freq=452.012500 DCC=2 No data for current site found in DSDPlus.frequencies file
2023/01/26 19:54:31 Freq=452.012500 DCC=2 L13-1.3 neighbor: Site L13-1.4; CC=13696
 

dave3825

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All that's around me is P25, Nxdn Cap+ and Con+ and it's all the same. I do not believe quotes should be in the freqs file. I have always just put in the tx freq. I have never entered rx freqs

For the system shown below, I need an entry in each of the following.


DSDPlus.networks (protocol, net id, sys name in quotes)

Con+, 171, "OneVoice-NY" (This entry identifies network id 171 as Onevoice NY)
That entry is Digital flavor, System id, System Name in quotes



DSDPlus.frequencies (Protocol, net id, site, channel number, tx freq, rx freq, sort order, dcc)
; 171 2 Onevoice HHH (this species that these freqs are part of Onevoice system site 2 Half Hollow Hills)
Con+, 171, 2, 1, 471.51250, 471.51250, 0, 2
Con+, 171, 2, 3, 471.53750, 471.53750, 0, 3
Con+, 171, 2, 5, 471.56250, 471.56250, 0, 4
Con+, 171, 2, 7, 471.61250, 471.61250, 0, 5
Con+, 171, 2, 9, 471.93750, 471.93750, 0, 6
Con+, 171, 2, 11, 472.98750, 472.98750, 0, 7
Con+, 171, 2, 13, 477.66250, 477.66250, 0, 8
Con+, 171, 2, 15, 477.81250, 477.81250, 0, 9
Con+, 171, 2, 27, 454.31875, 454.31875, 0, 10
Con+, 171, 2, 29, 454.33125, 454.33125, 0, 11


DSDPlus.sites (these entries id the site being received) (protocol, sys id, site number, site name in quotes)
Con+, 171, 2, "Half Hollow Hills"
Con+, 171, 3, "Selden"
Con+, 171, 8, "Plainview"
 

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Below is info in the sites loader. I do not believe it will work for you until you separate all the sites in your freqs file to look like what I posted in post #4 above. I could be wrong as I always set it up the way shown above and never combined all the freqs from all sites on a system.


DSDPlus.siteLoader file and site loader window.

This feature adds a simple method to directly tune to trunked sites or conventional channels.
Users add trunked site and conventional channel entries to the DSDPlus.siteLoader file
and then use the site loader window to select a site or channel, which is then tuned to
by FMP24, FMPA or FMPP. TCP linking is required.

The format of the DSDPlus.siteLoader file mimics the DSDPlus.sites file.
Trunked site entries may be directly copied from the .sites file to the .siteLoader file.

Like the .sites file, the line format is protocol, network ID, site number, "alias text"

Trunked:

Additional "header" entries can be created to identify/name networks.
Use a site number value of zero for network header/name entries.

Conventional:

Entries can be created for direct tuning to conventional channels.
Use a protocol type of "Conv" or "Conventional" for conventional channel entries.
Typically, you should use unique network ID and site number values on conventional entries.
This lets DSD+ maintain separate talkgroup and radio records for each conventional digital
voice channel.

Both digital voice and analog voice conventional channel tuning is supported.
AM analog entries are supported when DSD+ is linked to FMP24.
FMPA and FMPP do not currently support AM demodulation.

Frequency and mode/protocol are specified in the alias text for each conventional entry.
The frequency value must appear first, then the analog mode or digital voice protocol,
then an identifying channel name.

For analog FM entries, only frequency and channel name are required.

For analog AM entries, use "AM" as the mode text.

For digital voice entries, use the appropriate protocol name. Choices are "ProVoice",
"P25", "D-Star", "Fusion", "DMR", "DCDM", "dPMR", "NXDN48" and "NXDN96".

DSD+ uses the mode/protocol values to select appropriate bandwidth, demodulation
and monitoring mode settings.

Entries of any type can appear more than once in the file, i.e. you can copy some
favorite / commonly used entries from elsewhere in the file to the top for quick access.

Sample DSDPlus.siteLoader file contents:

P25, BEE11.123, 0, "Mulberry PS"
P25, BEE11.123, 1.1, "North"
P25, BEE11.123, 2.2, "South"

Con+, 1234, 0, "ACME"
Con+, 1234, 1, "Site 1"
Con+, 1234, 1, "Site 2"

Conv, 1, 1, "162.550 WX1"
Conv, 1, 2, "119.150 AM ATIS"
Conv, 1, 3, "163.830 P25 FBI"

Press L in DSD+ to open the Network/Site Loader window.
With the sample file above, the window would look like:

P25 Mulberry PS
North
South
Con+ ACME
Site 1
Site 2
Conv 162.550 WX1
Conv 119.150 AM ATIS
Conv 163.830 P25 FBI

Use the Up/Down and PageUp/PageDown keys to highlight a trunked site or a conventional channel.
Press Enter to tune to the selected site/channel or press Esc to close the window.

If an entry is displayed in red, DSD+ does not have any frequency information to work with:

For trunked P25 sites, manually tune to them or their neighbors and monitor for a while;
DSD+ will record control channel information in the DSDPlus.P25data file.

For other trunked sites, edit the DSDPlus.frequencies file and add site frequencies.

If a conventional entry is red, something is wrong with the frequency information
in the entry's alias text.

The location and size of the network/site loader window and the size of the text
are adjusted in the same manner as the event log window.

A high contrast mode can be selected by pressing H, but the red color used to warn
of a lack of frequency information will not be displayed in high contrast modes.

If, after loading a trunking site, extra/erroneous channels/frequencies are displayed in
the channel window, press D to force DSD+ to discard all system information and rebuild it.
 

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DSDPlus.frequencies (Protocol, net id, site, channel number, tx freq, rx freq, sort order, dcc)
; 171 2 Onevoice HHH (this species that these freqs are part of Onevoice system site 2 Half Hollow Hills)
Con+, 171, 2, 1, 471.51250, 471.51250, 0, 2
Con+, 171, 2, 3, 471.53750, 471.53750, 0, 3
Con+, 171, 2, 5, 471.56250, 471.56250, 0, 4
Is this a feature in fastlane that it automatically deduct one from all even slot numbers and doesn't need those to be configured? RX frequencies would only be needed if you would like to try and decode the uplink and would like to see the info from the config? Or can you push a key and instantly monitor the uplink?

/Ubbe
 
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