DSDPlus Fast Lane - License & Radio ID Question

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  • Download the USA or Canada license data file (links in notes.txt file) to the DSDPlus directory.
  • Rename the file to FreqList.csv
Does this mean to rename the file without unzipping it?

Everything in the file is already .csv

This is for a Kenwood NXDN system, if that matters.

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You change the name in the FMP24 config file to FreqList.csv after you unzip it and move it to the DSD+ folder
 

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You change the name in the FMP24 config file to FreqList.csv after you unzip it and move it to the DSD+ folder
OK, that makes more sense. (The instructions should probably say that.)

But there's still the problem that when the file is unzipped - it creates a c:\DSDPlus\States folder and fills it with .csv file types, each with a unique state abbreviation e.g. GA.csv

Also, MS windows doesn't seem to know how to open the FMP24.cfg file.
 
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But there's still the problem that when the file is unzipped - it creates a c:\DSDPlus\States folder and fills it with .csv file types, each with a unique state abbreviation e.g. GA.csv
Sounds like you downloaded the zip file with individual states rather than full USA file, all you need to do is select the state file you want and move it out of there, or delete that and get the correct zip download.

Also, MS windows doesn't seem to know how to open the FMP25.cfg file.
First it is the FMP24.cfg, not FMP25 file. Windows, or more appropriately window programs such as Notepad or Notepad++ know how to open it fine, the secret is knowing how to use the right program to edit it.

OK, that makes more sense. (The instructions should probably say that.)
It actually does say it under the DSD+ 2.10 New Features section of Notes.txt, I just read it.
 
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Sounds like you downloaded the zip file with individual states rather than full USA file, all you need to do is select the state file you want and move it out of there, or delete that and get the correct zip download.


First it is the FMP24.cfg, not FMP25 file. Windows, or more appropriately window programs such as Notepad or Notepad++ know how to open it fine, the secret is knowing how to use the right program to edit it.
I fat-fingered that - I meant FMP24.cfg

I tried to get Win 10 to use Notepad to open it and it refused to do so.

Well, just tried again, same way Right-click, Open With, Other, Notepad ... it worked this time. Sigh.

The instructions should probably say all of that, and that there are two lines in FMP24.cfg:

.\FreqList.csv
.\FreqList2.csv

If one only wants to use one file - then change it to FreqList.csv, but if one wants to use two files, e.g. FL and GA then one should be renamed FreqList2?
 

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If one only wants to use one file - then change it to FreqList.csv, but if one wants to use two files, e.g. FL and GA then one should be renamed FreqList2?

If you read through the notes.txt file it explains that, it is also explained in the original FMP24.cfg file under the rem notes. The instructions aren't written to teach you to use computers, the author assumes you have some knowledge of them.
 

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If you read through the notes.txt file it explains that, it is also explained in the original FMP24.cfg file under the rem notes. The instructions aren't written to teach you to use computers, the author assumes you have some knowledge of them.
I've been using computers since the late 70's.

I'm a Linux & BSD user - MS does many things differently.

Across DSDPlus, SDRTrunk, and Trunk-Recorder/rdio, each has it's own quirks, that's why there are *support* forums for each.

Radio Reference doesn't provide the necessary info for me to populate these fields, so the project is on hold until I can locate this data:

"Add the network using the following format NEXEDGEXX, SYSID, "SYSTEM NAME" where NEXEDGEXX is either NEXEDGE48 or NEXEDGE96, SYSID is the decimal system ID provided by RR, and system name is the system name"
 

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The instructions should probably say that.

The instructions should probably say all of that, and that there are two lines in FMP24.cfg:

.\FreqList.csv
.\FreqList2.csv

If one only wants to use one file - then change it to FreqList.csv, but if one wants to use two files, e.g. FL and GA then one should be renamed FreqList2?


DSDPlus notes said:
USA License Data

For each DSD+ Fast Lane release, up to date FCC data is used
to create FMP/FMP24/FMPA/FMPP-compatible CSV files.

Per-state files are here:

https://www.dsdplus.com/dsdplusuploads/FastLane/States.zip

A single USA-wide file is here:

https://www.dsdplus.com/dsdplusuploads/FastLane/USA.zip

The DSD+ 2.10 notes explain how to use these optional files.


DSDPlus notes said: DSD+ 2.10 New Features
----------------------


USA License Data

We have created FMP/FMP24/FMPA-compatible FCC frequency data CSV files.
May 16, 2016 FCC data was used to create the files.
These files contain 3.8 million unique records.

Per-state files are here:

MEGA

A single USA-wide file is here:

MEGA

Note:

The large USA-wide file will not overwhelm or slow down FMP/FMP24/FMPA
or use more memory resources than one or two of the per-state files.

The per-state files are provided for users who wish to conserve disk space.

Multiple files can be combined into one file by using Notepad and copy/paste
commands, or by direct copying at a command prompt:

COPY file1.csv + file2.csv + ... + filex.csv targetfile.csv


The CSV file(s) you will be using should be copied to your DSD+ folder.

Edit your FMP/FMP24/FMPA .cfg file(s) and make the following changes:

a) add a CSV file name to the primary and/or auxiliary CSV lines

Examples:

USA.csv ; primary frequency list CSV path\filename

AZ.csv ; primary frequency list CSV path\filename
NM.csv ; auxiliary frequency list CSV path\filename

TriState.csv ; primary frequency list CSV path\filename

b) set the distance units

Example:

miles ; miles or kilometers

c) set the search radius

Example:

120 ; search distance

d) set your monitoring location; units are decimal degrees

Example:

35.6090 -108.8290 ; search origin (Rock Springs)


Each time FMP/FMP24/FMPA tunes to a new frequency, the frequency records
are scanned for matches that lie within the search distance you specified.
Matches are listed in the FMP/FMP24/FMPA console window.
Matches are sorted by distance (farthest first, closest last)

The copies of FMPA and FMP24 that are included in this release will also
pass the closest record's data to DSD+ (requires TCP link)
 

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I've been using computers since the late 70's.

I'm a Linux & BSD user - MS does many things differently.

Across DSDPlus, SDRTrunk, and Trunk-Recorder/rdio, each has it's own quirks, that's why there are *support* forums for each.

Radio Reference doesn't provide the necessary info for me to populate these fields, so the project is on hold until I can locate this data:

"Add the network using the following format NEXEDGEXX, SYSID, "SYSTEM NAME" where NEXEDGEXX is either NEXEDGE48 or NEXEDGE96, SYSID is the decimal system ID provided by RR, and system name is the system name"

1. Run FMP24-CC.bat and 1R.bat
2. When focused on the FMP24-CC screen showing the spectrum, type in one of the freqs for the system (from the license) and hit enter
3. Watch the waterfall to see if there is a signal on that freq
- if there is, navigate to the DSDPlus Event window and see what it's telling you, as well as the DSDPlus channel window
- if there isn't a signal, repeat #2 and plug in another frequency from the license
- do that til you find a 24/7 signal (NXDN type C will have a constant control channel, type D will not)

But that's how you start to find things out . RR doesn't have the information. How RR gets that information is from people who use tools like this to discover the information and then subsequently submit it to RR.

Mike
 

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If your trying to discover the system and freqs being used, it would be easier to look up Evans County on the FCC site rather than using the FCC files for FMP24. A quick look shows they have a few licenses showing analog, NXDN and Mototrbo (which just expired). The files are going to have many entries and they will include mobile freqs (inputs) which are not (normally) used when scanning. We listen to repeater outputs.

Use the directions Mike posted above with these freqs. These are listed as NXDN

1154.115000004K00F1WFB81150.00032.17328-81.89972CLAXTONEVANSGA
1154.242500004K00F1WFB81150.00032.17328-81.89972CLAXTONEVANSGA
1155.002500004K00F1WFB81150.00032.17328-81.89972CLAXTONEVANSGA
1155.715000004K00F1WFB81150.00032.17328-81.89972CLAXTONEVANSGA
1155.902500004K00F1WFB81150.00032.17328-81.89972CLAXTONEVANSGA
3151.032500004K00F1WFX15100.00032.17328-81.89972EVANSGA
3151.047500004K00F1WFX15100.00032.17328-81.89972EVANSGA
3151.130000004K00F1WFX150100.00032.17328-81.89972EVANSGA
3151.302500004K00F1WFX15100.00032.17328-81.89972EVANSGA
3151.490000004K00F1WFX15100.00032.17328-81.89972EVANSGA

NXDN FCC Callsign WRKC742 (Evans, County of)
DMR FCC Callsign WQUB792 (EVANS COUNTY) expired 5 30 2024
 

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If your trying to discover the system and freqs being used, it would be easier to look up Evans County on the FCC site rather than using the FCC files for FMP24. A quick look shows they have a few licenses showing analog, NXDN and Mototrbo (which just expired). The files are going to have many entries and they will include mobile freqs (inputs) which are not (normally) used when scanning. We listen to repeater outputs.

Use the directions Mike posted above with these freqs. These are listed as NXDN

1154.115000004K00F1WFB81150.00032.17328-81.89972CLAXTONEVANSGA
1154.242500004K00F1WFB81150.00032.17328-81.89972CLAXTONEVANSGA
1155.002500004K00F1WFB81150.00032.17328-81.89972CLAXTONEVANSGA
1155.715000004K00F1WFB81150.00032.17328-81.89972CLAXTONEVANSGA
1155.902500004K00F1WFB81150.00032.17328-81.89972CLAXTONEVANSGA
3151.032500004K00F1WFX15100.00032.17328-81.89972EVANSGA
3151.047500004K00F1WFX15100.00032.17328-81.89972EVANSGA
3151.130000004K00F1WFX150100.00032.17328-81.89972EVANSGA
3151.302500004K00F1WFX15100.00032.17328-81.89972EVANSGA
3151.490000004K00F1WFX15100.00032.17328-81.89972EVANSGA

NXDN FCC Callsign WRKC742 (Evans, County of)
DMR FCC Callsign WQUB792 (EVANS COUNTY) expired 5 30 2024

@kd4e FB8 would suggest (but not guarantee) that it's Type C with a constant control channel that may periodically rotate between all five freqs. So there is likely a 24/7 control channel active on one of those freqs right now. Even if there isn't, you are likely to see the activity on one of the FB8 freqs at some point during the day unless none of the county uses the system or it isn't online.
 

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The FMP24.CFG file has been edited to:

C:\DSDPlus\GA.csv
.\FreqList2.csv (Should I remove this since I only want GA?)
miles and bearing
99.9 (Does it matter if I leave this default setting?)
32.7025 -82.7174

In the DSD+ CC & VC Event Log windows there's a red highlighted error:

Startup Trunking Site Load: Failed - no FMPx link

In the CC DSD+ and VC DSD+ windows the error is:

FMPx link error = -5
[Server is not listening on selected link ID]
 

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CORRECTION!

The FMP24.CFG file has been edited to:

C:\DSDPlus\GA.csv
.\FreqList2.csv (Should I remove this since I only want GA?)
miles and bearing
99.9 (Does it matter if I leave this default setting?)
32.1606 -81.9082

In the DSD+ CC & VC Event Log windows there's a red highlighted error:

Startup Trunking Site Load: Failed - no FMPx link
In the CC DSD+ and VC DSD+ windows the error is:

FMPx link error = -5
[Server is not listening on selected link ID]

If an admin can delete the prior, incorrect post, that would be good. (It's past the 30 min for me to edit or delete.)
 

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How many dongles are you using, and how are you trying to start fmp24 and DSDPlus? One is not connecting to the other.

Like mentioned above it’s easier, once it’s up and running, to manually tune to the freqs and go from there. The fcc file stuff is really only used to tell someone if the freq they are on is licensed and to who based on the range in miles one sets. So to answer that question, if you left it at 99 miles, it will try to display license info for up to that range. Many freqs are shared and if I recall it will only display one license, even if other agencies are licensed.
 

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How many dongles are you using, and how are you trying to start fmp24 and DSDPlus? One is not connecting to the other.

Like mentioned above it’s easier, once it’s up and running, to manually tune to the freqs and go from there. The fcc file stuff is really only used to tell someone if the freq they are on is licensed and to who based on the range in miles one sets. So to answer that question, if you left it at 99 miles, it will try to display license info for up to that range. Many freqs are shared and if I recall it will only display one license, even if other agencies are licensed.
Two dongles.

As I understood the instructions I needed to open cc then vc then fmp24-cc then fmp24-vc

Yes, no, maybe?

Thanks!
 

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I have not run a 2 dongle set up in quite a while. I don’t have dad notes in front of me but there is a section in there for single and dual dongle start directions. What version of DSDPlus are you using?
 

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I have not run a 2 dongle set up in quite a while. I don’t have dad notes in front of me but there is a section in there for single and dual dongle start directions. What version of DSDPlus are you using?
Fast Lane - just purchased and installed. Notes say 2.465
 

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What do you need to do is start simple. You’re trying to do 100 things at once without ever having use the software ever.

Run an unedited copy of fmp24-cc.bat and an unedited copy of 1R.bat.

Get that working and learn how to use the program and then move on to 50 dongles

And keep in mind, you do not need two dongle to trunk track. It can be handy at times 99% of the time I’m using just a single dongle just because that’s all that is needed
 

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I used zadig and sdrconsole to get the noelec nesdr to be recognized by DSDPlus Fast Lane.

I can receive FM-BC in sdrconsole - so the hardware is all performing correctly.

I tried using just 1R and FMP24-CC .\FMP-FreqList1.csv and .\FMP-FreqList2.csv in FMP.CFG but I'm not sure why - because neither appears to exist anywhere o the drive. I also still get the same error:

FMPx link error = -5
[Server is not listening on selected link ID]

It does default to 935MHz and jumps around just a little bit "Step: 6.25" may control that, it also doesn't generate any audio (not even static).
 
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