Duplicate Talkgroups help needed

[PJH]

Did a bunch of submissions and noticed that there are a few duplicate talkgroups on the system. Local user please clarify:

101-Creede School District in Mineral County
101-Poudre School District South Bus Terminal in Larimer County

1057-Bureau of Indian Affairs - Fire 1 - Bureau of Indian Affairs
1057-Douglas County Fire Operations OPS-3 - Douglas County

*1540-Alpine Rescue Team - Jefferson County
*1540-Alpine Rescue Group - Colorado Search and Rescue

*I am inclined to group all the regional SAR groups into the CO SAR category and leave the location/county based groups in their respective counties. I do now know the Alpine Group/Teams area of responsibility.

I am also inclined to delete the Creede school and BIA TG's as they fall outside of the talkgroup patterns, although stranger things have happened.

 

[natedawg1604]

I assume you're referencing DTRS (obviously). TG 1057 is most definitely (still) Douglas County Fire Ops-3, I say that with 100% confidence, so delete the other duplicate reference. (It looks like the other TGID is missing 1 digit, based on the 2 related TG's)

TG 1540 is still, of course, Alpine Rescue. I suppose it would make sense to delete the duplicate TG in the Jefferson County Section. Alpine frequently operates on Jeffco channels, but they also operate on Clear Creek and Gilpin channels for certain calls. As far I know, Alpine covers Jefferson, Clear Creek and Gilpin Counties.

I have a vague recollection TG 101 was a Larimer County School bus channel, but I haven't listened to it recently, hopefully someone else can provide a definitive answer (obviously one of them is a duplicate).

 

[Spitfire8520]

101-Creede School District in Mineral County
101-Poudre School District South Bus Terminal in Larimer County

TG 101 is Poudre School District.

1057-Bureau of Indian Affairs - Fire 1 - Bureau of Indian Affairs
1057-Douglas County Fire Operations OPS-3 - Douglas County

TG 1057 is Douglas County Fire. Looking at all the new talkgroups, I'm pretty sure all of the TGs submitted for Bureau of Indian Affairs are incorrect.

*1540-Alpine Rescue Team - Jefferson County
*1540-Alpine Rescue Group - Colorado Search and Rescue

*I am inclined to group all the regional SAR groups into the CO SAR category and leave the location/county based groups in their respective counties. I do now know the Alpine Group/Teams area of responsibility.

The proper name for is Alpine Rescue Team. According to their website, they are based in Jefferson County and work in Clear Creek, Jefferson, and Gilpin counties. Someone may have a little more insight about their operations.

As for other feedback about the latest update with the submissions:
I'm not entirely why TG 3096 was submitted. Cherry Creek Schools is no longer on DTRS.
Basically all of those new Fremont County TGs are encrypted.

 

[natedawg1604]

It also seems someone added Windsor Fire TG's to the Larimer County Section, (TG's 4073 & 4074). Are these TG's now used by Windsor Fire on DTRS via ISSI, in addition to FRCC??

 

[Spitfire8520]

It also seems someone added Windsor Fire TG's to the Larimer County Section, (TG's 4073 & 4074). Are these TG's now used by Windsor Fire on DTRS via ISSI, in addition to FRCC??

I don't believe either of the TGs were on FRCC to begin with. They have never been seen on FRCC and are right in the middle of Larimer County's TGID allocation. It's likely that the TGs never left DTRS. I don't think Windsor [Severance] Fire uses them anymore.

As for ISSI and these TGs, I don't think I've seen any activity recently that seems to indicate that. Then again, I don't watch northern Colorado closely so I could be wrong.

 

[Steve2003]

DTRS TgID 4430 is also duplicated:


Decimal: 4430
Alpha Tag: WFremontFD
Mode: E
Description: Western Fremont Fire Department
Service Tag: Fire Dispatch
Category: Fremont County


Decimal: 4430
Alpha Tag: WFremontFD 2
Mode: D
Description: Western Fremont County Fire Tac
Service Tag: Fire-Tac
Category: Fremont County

 

[PJH]

Fremont was a me bad - was having trouble with internet service and it wasn't fully updating

 

[PJH]

Duplicates fixed.

Folks, if there is outdated information in the database or corrections/updates needed, please click the "Submit" tab under the DTR listing and describe in detail what needs to be changed. Please list them under the proper county or category headings in your submission text.

What we see on the backend is pretty substantial for a system this size, so it helps us locate the information that is needed much quicker.

I've done some backend work to update (for DB aware scanners and software) the county listings so programming and GPS info is more streamlined - and categories that are systemwide is also reflected/updated (backend stuff).

If you have noticed, the system was brought back up to DB standards and state agencies and similar are now located at the top of the listings. Some category names were updated to proper agency names and some consolated (two categories with different names - same agency kind of thing).

I am still working on organizing each county back to DB standards for sorting (Police/Fire/EMS/EMA/etc) and by County Agency followed by municipalities in alphabetical order sort order - but that will take time.

When its all finished, it will be much more streamlined when you are trying to find information.

Some of the description fields will be updated for readability. Those who use display scanners will enjoy no longer seeing: "Anytown Police Dispatch Ch1 - Channel-1 Dispatch" to simply "Anytown Police 1" or "Anytown Police 1 - Dispatch" as the case may be.

Any suggestions or comments will be accepted and changes will be made within database standards.

Thanks

 

[n0nhj]

Typos?

Did a bunch of submissions and noticed that there are a few duplicate talkgroups on the system. Local user please clarify:

101-Creede School District in Mineral County
101-Poudre School District South Bus Terminal in Larimer County

1057-Bureau of Indian Affairs - Fire 1 - Bureau of Indian Affairs
1057-Douglas County Fire Operations OPS-3 - Douglas County

*1540-Alpine Rescue Team - Jefferson County
*1540-Alpine Rescue Group - Colorado Search and Rescue

*I am inclined to group all the regional SAR groups into the CO SAR category and leave the location/county based groups in their respective counties. I do now know the Alpine Group/Teams area of responsibility.

I am also inclined to delete the Creede school and BIA TG's as they fall outside of the talkgroup patterns, although stranger things have happened.

Looks like some typos crept into your entries....
8285 Creede Consolidated School District
10557 BIA Fire 1

 

[PJH]

There are notes in your submissions that I need replies to

 

[Spitfire8520]

10557 BIA Fire 1

Just wondering, but aren't all the BIA talkgroups supposed to be in the 11000 range and not the 10000 range?

11551 and 11553 have been in the database for a while under 'La Plata County Talkgroups'.

11551 Southern Ute Police Department
10552? Southern Ute Tribal Police Tac
11553 Ignacio Police Department
10554? Ignacio Police Tac

 

[PJH]

Anything is possible.

I know of radio ID's that are in the State of CO ranges, but are not state agencies. Sometimes smaller agenices and users are placed in/out of what (are/were) dedicated ranges, but when the database starts to run out of space, things get shuffled around than to do mass reprogramming of radios - since it is only a number and transparent to the users.

When doing the conventional Federal updates, I think they were all listed under the BIA and not the county (from memory). Finding public information on Igancio shows it to be an approved Colorado town and not reservation - although its right in the middle of one and serves it. So does it a "Colorado" town or reservation town?

Usually its cut and dry, but those were not.

Spitfire - I sent you back a bunch of notes on your updates, see if its clear or not. Meeting in the middle and trying to get things more streamlined. The county was on my list to make a little nicer but on the backend, it was kind of a wreck and wasn't going to touch it for awhile.