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n1chu

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I used actual police radios - Motorola APX models - to scan the talkgroups without affiliating to the system. Basically the definition of going to the extreme to whack and scan.


Does it get any damage from the sun? Is it fine to leave it there? I also was thinking of putting it near the center or passenger side of the dashboard to prevent it from blocking my view of the road. I want it to be clearly visible without obstructing my view - being able to glance over without fully distracting my attention.

Also, in regards to hiding your scanner... do people actually steal scanners??
Any sun damage? That depends on what you mean by “any”. The finish doesn’t fade if that’s what you mean, and I don’t live in Fla. where it’s hotter most days than Ct.,where I live. But there are those periods where Ct. gets a tropical heat wave. And since I always roll up the windows and lock my truck it can get as hot as Fla., just not as often. I never had a problem with heat.

Ideally, the scanner should be mounted in a cool, dry environment. But realistically, this is not the case. And most scanners are built with the understanding they need to perform in less than ideal situations. However, I have found the display somewhat lacking in bright sunlight. Uniden suggests using the black & white settings for maximum contrast. But even then it may be tough to read in bright sunlight. It’s not just a Uniden thing. Mounting on the dashboard is just not the best place for it… unless when you want to take a quick glance at it and not get distracted from watching the road but isn’t that a contradiction in terms? If you don’t want the distraction, don’t put it smack dab in front of you! But I know what you mean. You will probably end up mounting it by the console. (I use a commercially available post that attaches to a floor plate held in place by the passenger seat bolts.) It sits close to the center console without drilling holes and is probably the best setup for your vehicle. It’s very versatile in that you can mount your scanner AND external speaker at an angle making it easier to glance at while at the same time keeping it out of direct sunlight. However, if you want to use GPS the antenna wire might be too short. The wire run would runs down the post, across the floor and up towards the dash.

Do Scanners get stolen? As compared to other items found in vehicles I would imagine not as much. But since scanners are scarce compared to items commonly found in cars, that’s probably why. Common sense tells us not to advertise, leave packages in plain sight, etc., and the same holds true for radios. And even if the scanner isn’t on some thief’s list, when mounted on the dash it may still draw unwanted attention to the vehicle when that same vehicle might have been ignored if the dash was clean.
 

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Also another thing- I want to scan a DMR repeater/possible TRS that is not in the RadioReference database. It is at a hospital.

I want to assume they are on some sort of TRS as I've seen their security officers way out-of-range from the hospital (almost cities away) and yet are still picking up the signal perfectly fine.

I have picked up the DMR signal from my house using a Baofeng - obviously, it cannot decrypt the signal (or whatever its called).

How can I pick up this system? Would I have to sit right outside the hospital and turn on the CloseCall feature? Could I do it just from my car? What can I do to have it saved permanently in my scanners SD card?
Does anyone know anything about this?
 

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It's possible the hospital is "renting" use of a commercial radio system. This is done by many small businesses that desire radio communications, but isn't cost effective to create their own. The following is an example of one around my community: RCS CPNTrac Trunking System, Various, Multi-State

So you may want to check the Business part of RR for your community. Also, in whatever state forum applies to your area, you may ask the question "What does XYZ use for their security communications?"

If it is a DMR system, you'll need to purchase the DMR Upgrade key from Uniden.
 

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You might also see if you can identify the system by doing a frequency check. Learning who uses that frequency in your area will help determine if the system is owned by the hospital or is something they subscribe to. Once you identify who owns the system you should be able to determine if it’s a system your scanner can monitor. (There are differing modes used with some trunked systems that no scanner can monitor, at least that’s what I was told by the owner of one DMR system when I was trying to monitor an event his system supports each year. He has a bank of portables that run on his area-wide trunked system which he assigns to the event officials to use and collects them afterwards.)
 

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push-to-talk over cellular.
It sounds like you are talking about the First Responder Network. If so, here is what I’ve gleaned. If not, sorry about that-you can stop reading!

An internet network intended to give first responders priority access (it would be a shared network but in times of overcrowding first responders would automatically have access… even if it meant dropping another less priority user. In any event, the plan is to add two-way voice comms. Meaning they would take what we normally see with mobile units and their dispatch centers and move those comms onto the network. But it will use cellular to do it… and as such scanners won’t be able to monitor it… much like the mobile data terminals (MDT’s) we see in police cars and fire apparatus that use cellular and scanners can’t follow. Bottom line is forget about monitoring anything on a First Responder Network.
 

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You might also see if you can identify the system by doing a frequency check. Learning who uses that frequency in your area will help determine if the system is owned by the hospital or is something they subscribe to. Once you identify who owns the system you should be able to determine if it’s a system your scanner can monitor. (There are differing modes used with some trunked systems that no scanner can monitor, at least that’s what I was told by the owner of one DMR system when I was trying to monitor an event his system supports each year. He has a bank of portables that run on his area-wide trunked system which he assigns to the event officials to use and collects them afterwards.)

I've seen their callsigns from FCC and they are operating on UHF.

Also, what's the best and quickest way to get a HAM license?
 

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Here is the Statute. Note that it is a criminal offence, not a civil traffic infraction.

Just get your amateur technician license and you are exempt from the statute. And it will help you with your skills at hooking it up.
Read the statue... It's outdated, only applies to Frequency Modulated receivers. 😊
 

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Yes that is what I am referring to. I am going to try and take the measurements this afternoon. If it doesn't fit, do you think it would be ethical to place the scanner on the dash?
Sure if you want you or a passenger to eat the thing in an accident with or without airbag deployment.

Also, what's the best and quickest way to get a HAM license?
Study faster. Online practice testing websites are out there.
 

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It sounds like you are talking about the First Responder Network. If so, here is what I’ve gleaned. If not, sorry about that-you can stop reading!

An internet network intended to give first responders priority access (it would be a shared network but in times of overcrowding first responders would automatically have access… even if it meant dropping another less priority user. In any event, the plan is to add two-way voice comms. Meaning they would take what we normally see with mobile units and their dispatch centers and move those comms onto the network. But it will use cellular to do it… and as such scanners won’t be able to monitor it… much like the mobile data terminals (MDT’s) we see in police cars and fire apparatus that use cellular and scanners can’t follow. Bottom line is forget about monitoring anything on a First Responder Network.

I think you are talking about "First Net" which is more or less, a cellular phone network. While initially intended for first responders, AT&T is allowing other supporting agencies, such as wrecker drivers, to the system. While there is/may be push to talk, it is one user to another, typically. I've not seen that feature used (I fall into the first responder category).

Like any other cellular/broadband system, scanners ain't capable of monitoring the frequencies.
 

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I have picked up the DMR signal from my house using a Baofeng - obviously, it cannot decrypt the signal (or whatever its called).
If it is THE signal, you seem pretty confident it is the correct one, then enter that frequency in the scanner and pay for the DMR key and listen. If it is a net using several sites and channels then search the frequency band for other DMR frequencies and listen to them to hear if they carry the same traffic as the original frequency do. Then enter all frequencies into one MotoTrbo site and run the scanners LCN finder on them.

If you are unsure of if it can be monitored, it might be encrypted, you can get a $20 SDR dongle and use DSDPlus Windows software to decode the signal and look at its different parameters and also listen if it is unencrypted.

But if your area have simulcast systems then getting a SDS200 are probably the way to go. If there are no simulcast then a BCD536HP have the exact same features as a SDS200 but a much better receiver and a smaller DIN size more easy to install.

/Ubbe
 
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