Yeah, the system at my father's fire station when I was a kid was set off using simple 2-tone, and it was B-A instead of A-B tones (the inverse of their pagers). To boot, there was a button, kind of like a street call box, on the front of the station, which kids would punch every now and then.
Maybe I'm a pansy for this, but that siren, especially after the recent military activity your country has been in, would have made me fill my pants. And I come from a childhood where we had a similar siren for our volunteer FD crews, 200 feet from my house, for 18 years. Having this going off with no indication of why should be absolutely terrifying.
I've lived in Dallas all my life, and this is the first time I recall ALL of the sirens being activated at the same time via a hack, malfunction, whatever. There have been a few cases in the past when one or more in a specific sector of the city have gone off unexpectedly, but I don't recall anything as wide spread as this incident.
Several times last night the sirens in my area seemed to shut down for a few minutes, then started right back up.
I find it interesting that this occurred a couple of days after the monthly test, usually around the Noon to 1PM time frame.
With it being on a clear night shortly after Trump had fired missiles at another country I'm sure plenty of people thought the US had been fired upon expecting incoming.
So one must wonder is this system setup linked together? Or multiple sites requiring independent dtmf or 2 tone drops independent of the others? If so this would mean way more then one person involved if it wasn't a repeated channel to drop the signal to each tower box.
That's my thinking as well. The monthly test was this past Wednesday, so someone well could have monitored the triggering transmission, then used that as a guide to create their own command. Coming right after the Tomahawk launches into Syria, that would suggest some sort of connection. But there was no traffic on any of the local channels that indicated any sort of alert or emergency. I pulled up Twitter & started seeing local news reporters posting about the sirens, and later, comments from city officials (OEM, PD, & FD) that there was no real emergency.Given the timing I really wonder if the person or persons responsible did it on purpose just for that purpose or for giggles unrelating. Times have changed and now days secure systems are the way to go unfortunately.
I don't believe there is a link between the sirens as such. But they are set up in sectors so that sirens can be set off both city wide, or alternatively, for a specific quadrant.I doubt they're linked. Most likely someone just had enough power and a high enough location to hit them all. Definitely not done by a handheld.
That's my thinking as well. The monthly test was this past Wednesday, so someone well could have monitored the triggering transmission, then used that as a guide to create their own command. Coming right after the Tomahawk launches into Syria, that would suggest some sort of connection. But there was no traffic on any of the local channels that indicated any sort of alert or emergency. I pulled up Twitter & started seeing local news reporters posting about the sirens, and later, comments from city officials (OEM, PD, & FD) that there was no real emergency.
I did not have the TV on when that started. I suspect that as soon as they got reports of what was happening, the local stations checked their sources, and as soon as they had a handle on the situation, they probably ran a crawl on the screen. But I never turned the TV on to verify that. The news departments of the four network affiliated TV stations here are very aggressive in trying trying to get an edge on the competition for breaking stories.It's easy for us high-tech people to verify via FB, Twitter, etc. It's the low tech people with no internet or smart phone I worry about. Did local TV and FM stations break in to let these people know? When you don't have internet the first instinct is to turn on the TV...
If they use DTMF, Quick Call or even FSK,, it would not be hard to record and replay the test sequence. Unfortunately all this will accomplish is panic at DHS, more money spent and clamp down on innocent hobbyists and hackersI've lived in Dallas all my life, and this is the first time I recall ALL of the sirens being activated at the same time via a hack, malfunction, whatever. There have been a few cases in the past when one or more in a specific sector of the city have gone off unexpectedly, but I don't recall anything as wide spread as this incident.
Several times last night the sirens in my area seemed to shut down for a few minutes, then started right back up.
I find it interesting that this occurred a couple of days after the monthly test, usually around the Noon to 1PM time frame.
If they use DTMF, Quick Call or even FSK,, it would not be hard to record and replay the test sequence. Unfortunately all this will accomplish is panic at DHS, more money spent and clamp down on innocent hobbyists and hackers
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I did not have the TV on when that started. I suspect that as soon as they got reports of what was happening, the local stations checked their sources, and as soon as they had a handle on the situation, they probably ran a crawl on the screen. But I never turned the TV on to verify that. The news departments of the four network affiliated TV stations here are very aggressive in trying trying to get an edge on the competition for breaking stories.
However, I had four separate scanners on in my home office, and nothing out of the order was on any of them. No activation of my weather radio either.
I then checked Twitter. All of the local stations post breaking news in tweets as do a number of their reporters. When Twitter opened, I saw posts from several of the senior reporters for various stations, and then shortly after, posts from both the local stations, as well as various City of Dallas related posts started to come in confirming the unintentional activation.
My former employer purchased a much smaller version of the system acquired by Dallas. The system was acquired a year before the Dallas system was installed.If they use DTMF, Quick Call or even FSK,, it would not be hard to record and replay the test sequence. Unfortunately all this will accomplish is panic at DHS, more money spent and clamp down on innocent hobbyists and hackers
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I had most of the deployment TGID's off, as well as Love Field. I did have Cockrell Hill on, but must have missed their comment. While I have my 'home' DPD Patrol area (Southwest/Ch 4) active, as well as Ch 9/Traffic & Tactical Ch 8, I only have a few others unlocked, and those are on my BR330T at low volume. A few deployment ID's, including Southwest, are on the same scanner.Weird you didnt hear anything on your scanners. I was playing GTA 5 online and heard them and thought they were coming from the game. Few minutes later Cockrell HIll PD asked if they had a fire or knew why sirens were going off. Then Love field PD unit asked if something was going on in CH 5 due to sirens, then DPD 1 had an officer or two asking. Then deployment central started talking about it.
My dumb butt still thought the sounds were coming from the game until the second or third mention on the radio.
I never heard DFR talk about it.
My former employer purchased a much smaller version of the system acquired by Dallas. The system was acquired a year before the Dallas system was installed.
There are some points I want to share with you.
First, I believe it would be easier to gain entry into the system's "controller" via the Internet than by activation of 156 sites via radio control. Activation by radio would require knowledge of the radio channel monitored by the receiver in each siren's cabinet as well as the ability to duplicate the precise coding sequence to activate the system.
I'm not saying that access via radio communications didn't occur. I'm only saying I wouldn't expect this to have occurred.
Second, these systems are tested by using proprietary software. The same software activates the systems, polls the system for status updates (AC power, back-up battery, radio link status, cabinet security, etc.), and produces a map with siren sites identified by color code indicating individual site status. Polling can be done at any desired interval. It can be done manually or automatically.
The system my former employer purchased could be accessed remotely by technicians. This process is done via internet access. Of course, anyone who somehow figured out the IP address to even see a login script should be buying lottery tickets. Then, a person seeing a login screen would need to know the information for each required entry on the screen. I cannot imagine anyone unfamiliar with the system being able to access it through "good guessing" or by chance.
My opinion is the system most likely was activated repeatedly. Our system was configured to have a designated period of activation in order to not deplete the battery banks. Otherwise, the sirens could be needed for a subsequent warning for a second incident occurring during a period when AC power has been interrupted and be unable to alert due to depleted batteries.
Unless an unimaginable system error occurred to activate the sirens, I would expect a "hacker" to have been someone able to hear when the system stopped and then activate it again ... and again ... and again. The incident suggests to me that someone in Dallas knows exactly what happened.
As a footnote, please remember these systems are only intended for use as OUTDOOR warning devices. The fact that some people hear them inside homes and buildings is an unplanned advantage due to their proximity to a siren and the ability of the sound to be heard inside the structure.
I have extremely high regard for the manufacturer, their warning system products and the company personnel who installed our system and the much larger Dallas system.
For system security reasons, my comments do not provide specifics about other parameters or features.
I hope this information is beneficial to you.
What I'd like to know, is why does the City of Dallas think that the FCC can track the source of a transmission made a few days ago.We already know it was done by radio not internet because the FCC is involved, if it had been internet it would be the FBI.
What I'd like to know, is why does the City of Dallas think that the FCC can track the source of a transmission made a few days ago.
Track a current transmission, sure. But one that was made last Friday night?
RFI,
The city's statement, released to the press, specifically said they had asked the FCC to assist. I've also seen an additional statement that the FBI was also contacted.
They have also stated, several times, that they believe whoever did this was local, not an out of state or foreign hacker.